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Civil War in Palestine (1948-2021)

Reader comment on item: Poll: Israelis Want Victory, Preferably without Paying the Price

Submitted by Robert (United States), Jun 23, 2021 at 06:51

Victory, of course, presupposes War, unless it's used metaphorically. Assuming that the term is used literally, we may ask the question: What kind of War is it?

For one thing, it is not primarily an "Inter-National" war, in the sense of a war between 2 or more Sovereign States and Countries. Rather, it is what is generally called a "Civil War."

The distinction is important, because a Civil War must be resolved by the warring parties within the Country (Palestine), as an "Internal Matter." For example, China resists External Interference when it comes to Tibet, Hong Kong, and Taiwan.

When the International Community (of Nations, Countries, or States) acknowledged Palestine as the Homeland of the Jewish People, it did not thereby Grant and Establish the Right of Jews to "Settle Closely" in the Territory it named as the Palestine Mandate recognized by the League of Nations, The United States (which did not join the League) and its successor, the United Nations. National Self-Determination of a People or Nation is collectively asserted through force of arms and a military and police sufficiently strong to defend against outsiders.

Palestine, as we know, has been Ethnically Cleansed of Jews for over 2,000 years and by modern times populated mostly by Muslim Sunni Arabs now known as Palestinians. At the same time, in the 20th Century, Western, Central, and Eastern Europe, as well as Arab and Muslim Countries, have and has been Ethnically Cleansed of Jews.

Now, in 2021, Israel is still in the midst of the Civil War that continues since 1948, when the State of Israel came into being as a Soverign State. Unfortunately the Rebels against Israel within the Disputed Territories fall into two political camps, one in Gaza and the other in the West Bank. In Gaza we have De Jure Hamas which seeks the destruction of Israel and Ethnically Cleansing it of the Jews who immigrated into Palestine after 1917. While in the West Bank there is the Palestinian Authority, Weak and Corrupt, demanding a return to the Pre-1967, or Post-1948, Armistice Boundaries which were never Sovereign Borders. At the same time the Palestinian periodically engage in resumption of hostilities since 1948.

The general problem is the outside interference of foreign countries in the Civil War Dispute between Israelis and Palestinian Arabs in the Disputed Territories.

So the way to Victory is the way opened up by the administration of former President Donald J. Trump. The Abraham Accords brought political recognition of Israel by 4 more Arab States, 2 of which can improve the economic conditions of the Palestinians. And when these Palestinians have something to lose, economically, perhaps a more peace and less demanding (compromise) terms will follow, and both people will emerge victorious.

Of course, the most difficult issue is the so-called "Right of Return" of so-called "Palestinian Refugees" (mostly 3rd and 4th generation. One solution would be the Granting of Citizenship to them by the Five Countries which attacked Israel in 1948, as well as those countries which cleansed their land of Millions of Jews in Europe, Western Asia, and North Africa.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Beware of "Unintended Consequences": PA vs. Hamas, et al [250 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
RobertJul 9, 2021 09:20269808
Collateral Damage Always Contentious - Yet Never-ending in Consequences of Such Clashes [291 words]M ToveyJul 10, 2021 13:06269808
1Palestinian Cohort and Demographics [459 words]RobertJul 2, 2021 11:32269415
Views of Victory Valued in Cost of Victims [476 words]M ToveyJul 2, 2021 18:37269415
1So, Victory Means Re-Installing the Palestinian Authority (Abbas) in Gaza? [138 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
RobertJun 29, 2021 09:33269263
2Israeli Victory - Against the World, or the Palestians? [85 words]RobertJun 26, 2021 14:25269030
1The truth should be Israel's Hasbara. [233 words]PrashantJun 27, 2021 19:38269030
That marriage of convenience [83 words]JeffJun 28, 2021 21:19269030
1Communist China and the Arab Spring [318 words]RobertJun 28, 2021 21:25269030
Arab Uprising Under Persian/Marxist Influences [299 words]M ToveyJul 1, 2021 18:42269030
4Civil War in Palestine (1948-2021) [516 words]RobertJun 23, 2021 06:51268714
4Russia vs. Turkey [401 words]RobertJun 22, 2021 11:27268647
1Intrigues of Empires Returning to Become Obstacles to Israeli Victory [126 words]M ToveyJun 22, 2021 15:52268647
True--but Understandable [534 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Stephen BermanJun 19, 2021 22:40268478
1People are ready to ray the price - if it is worth it [498 words]JT MeyerJun 15, 2021 11:38268259
2Hamas in Gaza Entails Viuctory for Israel [417 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
RobertJun 11, 2021 14:08268163
3"Paying the Price" = Zero Israeli Casualties [267 words]RobertJun 12, 2021 10:55268163
Change Government Does Not Have Victory in View [62 words]M ToveyJun 12, 2021 12:09268163
1Islamic way of thinking is wrong [107 words]PrashantJun 12, 2021 18:09268163
1Is Israel Victory humanly achievable? [55 words]PeterJun 9, 2021 14:34268074
Who wkll be doinv theactual fighting [64 words]Steven ShermanJun 11, 2021 10:58268074
Defense of the Political Will in Jeopardy When Resolve Does Not Match the Threat [95 words]M ToveyJun 14, 2021 00:35268074
Diffusion of Political Wills and Opinions Affecting Defense of Sovereignty [212 words]M ToveyJun 22, 2021 10:05268074
3Israel needs the kind of leadership that inspires victory [234 words]DaveJun 8, 2021 21:56268036
2It is NOT an Israel vs. Palestinian problem [192 words]PrashantJun 10, 2021 23:25268036
2A Matter Of Will [119 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Gary SackJun 8, 2021 16:14268024
1Clash of Wills - Clash of Empires - Kingdom Victory [125 words]M ToveyJun 9, 2021 10:40268024
3Total Victory, Simple Victory [64 words]Gary SackJun 9, 2021 14:39268024
1What Price Victory - What Price Peace [605 words]M ToveyJun 8, 2021 12:13268011

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