do you think I care?

Submitted by susan (Italy), Jan 9, 2007 at 17:37

"You so eloquently throw facts and figures at me - most of them probably right. But have you actually really been there?"

do I need to be at auschwitz to condemn the atrocities of concentration camps? Do I need to see a gulag to understand what it was like to live under communism?

I don't need to go to a muslim world or having a day to day relationship with moslems to understand them. I word teaching immigrants and the difference of attitude/capabilities/personality between a south american, a chinese, a former east european and even a christian african is a different world compared to muslims.

I have experienced first hand all the things we talk about here, the arrogance, the "we are superior than you" attitude, the "women should stay at home" attitude, you name it, I saw it.

I had friends, that are not as biased as myself and prejudiced that told me they felt uncomfortable going on holidays in turistic places like egypt etc, with first hand accounts that you wouldn't believe to hear in 2007!

I heard experiences from women going there for tourism, missionaries going there to help, all of them had unpleasant stories. What you experienced in some "protected area for western workers" is not of my concern. I learnt that the muslims LIE for their goals, there is NOTHING in the koran that forbids lying, on the contrary it encourage to lie to infidels, and to pretend nothing is wrong with them, but how can you know, you prefer to believe the koran has something like the 10 commandments...

I don't need to waste my precious time, my hard earned money, especially to give it to people that will use it to destroy the only civilization worth saving on this planet (and I don't necessarily mean the christian one or the white one, being muslims anti-everything-that's-not-muslim). I see how philipinos behaves, I see how south americans behave, I see how chineses behave, I see how poor romanians behave and I see also how muslims behave. 2 different planets. I also hear how other non-muslim immigrants (people with the same integration problem, language problem, racism problems, job opportunity problem, money problems) talk about the muslim immigrants. Not only they remember how in their former countries the muslims WERE a problem too, but also in the new country. Of course it cannot be a worldwide conspiracy as your whiny muslims say. You cannot put together 4.5 billion people and convince them of the same stuff, you cannot hear the same fabricated stories from a philipino guy and a south american woman.

"I have personally seen the immediate aftermath of a suicide bomb in a market in Israel. I have smelled the blood and have still nightmares from it. I survived an IRA tube bombing in London. I've seen the aftermath of an ISRAELI air strike in GAZA. I have seen my father 40 years later waking up screaming of a nightmare of Mauthausen and Auschwitz..... Have you? Or are you just another desk jockey reading internet blogs and collecting facts and figures why ISLAM must be eradicated?"

I don't want any more bombs to explode in israel, I don't want another jewish persecution to happen as well as buddist persecution and hindu persecution and why not, even christian persecution, that's why islam must be eradicated.

On the contrary, you wanna proud yourself "you survived this and that" and to let you go on playing the highlander you want islam to go on existing.

"I am a republican, and do have several guns at home. Albeit, I do not believe in the "unconditional right to bear Arms" and sniper rifles over the counter. Does this make me a hypocrite?"

well , YES, I practiced voluntary abortion a dozen times but I don't believe in the "unconditional right to abort" . Does this make me a hypocrite?

"My directive is solely a stand against any fanatism of any kind shape or form.. No offense Susan, your many submissions in this blog including your borderline insulting tonality of your response to me as well as to others, is a stringent example of the kind of tunnel-vision and outright hatred it produces."

9-11 was caused by my words? the armenian genocide was caused by my words?

On the contrary, 1400 years of muslims calling us apes and pigs caused no proportionate offence to them, they are among us, sucking our resources and killing us in return.

Where is the outright hatred?

Not only your self-admitted lack of knowledge of the koran and muslim writings makes you the LAST person to talk about it (as pointed out by others to you) but also the total ignorance of what muslims do against christians, jews, buddist, hindu, zoroastrians and atheists EVERY DAMN DAY since the 7th century.

"If your extreme ideology represents the majority in the western world, I do indeeed fear for our future."

As I told you, become a good dhimmi and go take your place as a slave of the muslims. I am not interested about your freedoms if you are not the first interested in them.

I noticed the DEAFENING silence about the actions of your good friends turks. Here's another example for the apologists like yourself.

The germans did wrong, very wrong in WW2. The germans had to

1) pay reparations

2) be humiliated brutally with bombings

3) be humiliated heavily with the stigma of the nazi

4) apologize

5) apologize again

6) again apologize

7) did I say apologize?

The turks in their racist rampant hatred for non-muslims and their superiority craziness (how similar to hitler) murdered 6 million christians between 1912 and 1955.

1) never paid reparations, actually the stole all the richness of the jews an christians that were NEVER returned, unlike the money of the german jew people

2) they were never humiliated brutally with bombings

3) they were never humiliated heavily with the stigma of their genocide, supremacist ideology, racist ideology

4) never apologized

5) they even threaten you to destroy monuments in memory of the armenian genocide (as it happened in france)

6) they even have the guts to ask YOU TO APOLOGISE when you remind them of this little hystory detail

7) they even force the european union to accept their membership without being forced to apologise for the armenian genocide

8) they even go on treating jews and christians in their country as animals and second class human beings

Now explain to me michel,

were the germans more stupid?

were the germans uglier?

were the germans more hated?

were the germans some second class world citizens to be denied all the things that the turks are GRANTED?

NO, the only ugly reason is because there are people like YOURSELF that play the relativist game "the white men have their faults, the bible is a book full of hatred bla bla bla bla"

So here's the result, if you are white and/or christian you have to be beaten down, jailed for massacres, ridiculed, apologise profusely, see Hitler, see Milosevich,

on the contrary if you did the VERY SAME STUFF but you are a muslim, or brown/black you are spared EVERYTHING, you are even considered a national hero (ataturk).

All the western leaders of past/recent past are now called bloody dictators from ceasar to napoleon. Ataturk is a sort of semi-deity.

If you aren't able to see that this paradigm show something that's NOT RIGHT you are a lost cause.

I couldn't care less about what you think of me. I keep myself at distance from people like yourself playing the relativism game, especially when it's played to destroy my grand children's future or my civilization's future.

Go on appeasing the muslims like you do pretending to have the moral higher ground. Before you realize it you will be required to pay an extra tax because you are not from the master race, the arab/muslim race.

Or being that you sound quite coward, you will join them, as some jews joined the nazi, selling their own people to death.

"Just because I try to find some sort of common ground and a more forward looking, proactive strategy to a problem, which simply can not be solved with a full-fledged conventional war on a huge segment of our global population"

who talked about conventional war? I believe the cost of a western bullet is worth more of the life of a muslim. Let's just LOCK our countries, let them murder each other like they have been successfully doing for 1400 years. Let's remove all our technologies from their countries, as well as our medical personnel, let's find another source of energy that's not oil.

The muslims will shrink from 1.5 billion to a few million.

Left on their own device they will starve en masse. The muslim world is a PARASITE, they need a living human body to suck the life from, they did it with the greek civilization, the egyptian, everywhere, now they are sucking away our resources. once you remove them from the body, they are dead.

No weapons.

I am not thinking about what to do, I am thinking about NOT DOING ANYTHING. STOPPING ALL RELATIONSHIPS.

"We self-destruct instead of unify and construct. You definitely display the very same hatred and intolerance you claim to condemn."

you are a master of relativity game. You and the rest that thinks like you. I haven't been murdering any muslims, unlike what they do normally everyday around the world, I haven't been crushing any plane into any muslim building, like they did. I haven't been bombing any of their transports, like they did, I haven't been blowing myself up, like they did. Any priest never called them apes and pigs, like they have been doing for 1400 years NON-STOP. Nobody in the west ever treated them like second class citizen or forbade to profess their cult, like they have been doing from DAY ONE.

So I don't know what you are saying, but you probably make sense in your little relativity-oriented brain.

"Given the means you probably would go out and nuke Tehran, it almost sounds like J."

Already explained that muslims are not worth our weapons.

"I rest my case. Since you seem to be exactly the kind of fanatic hate monger, out of whose mentality terrorists spawn, I will not justify your insulting comments with further responses."

boo hoo, I am not crying. you rest your case of someone that never read the koran but pretends to talk about it, never understood his own religion but lecture about it, never followed what the muslims are doing daily but pretends to know every single muslims on the planet to confirm us they are like the average joe.

Do you think I CARE that a person like you doesn't reply to me?

Don't know if you noticed, but I wasn't the only one pointing out the many mistakes you wrote.

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