To Mo on learning to reason

Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Jan 22, 2007 at 08:13

Mo you wrote: "Sometimes it can be hard to reason, as it involves thorough analysis and evaluation. It also involves swallowing our pride and agreeing to our opponent opinions when our logic and reasoning fails to stand up again theirs whatever they may be."

Do you remember coming on heavy about "purity" and I wrote this in reply: "Mo you talk of pure and impure Islam. What is this pure Islam you are talking about? You have mentioned several groups all of whom specialise in killing. To be pure one must purge what is impure. Just as the Nazis did. To have a pure Arayan race they gassed and killed Jews, Slavs, Gypsies. So for your pure Islam you kill impure women who show a bit of their ankle, slit the throat of girls who do not wear the hijab, murder men who point to some flaws in the pure religion." You took umbrage about the ankle bit and had a lot to say about it. I admitted my error but you had nothing to say about the slitting of throats, murder for criticising Islam.

Since you are all for reason and thorough analysis and evaluation, tell me how a pure religion can split into so many camps, Sunnis, Shias, Hanafis, Salafis and so on. Give me a reason why the people who follow the pure religion can see purity only in what they practice and see impurity in what others practice.

I also wrote and have received no reply yet on this: "So Mo, "changing the political dynamics of the lands" is threat of invasion or not? Does 8:69 allow Muslims to take war booty and enjoy it or not, and war meant to "change the political dynamics of the lands"? Did the Prophet "transgress the limits" when the dead of Badr were taunted and dumped into a well or when those killers had their legs and hands hacked off, blinded and left to die? Please don't disappear as some of your brethren have done."

What profound reason and logic does Islam have for as you say "changing the political dynamics of the lands", or in plain language Islamic wars of conquest. Let us have your analysis. Is taking war booty and enjoying it ethically and morally justified. You reasons and logic welcome.

And what is your evaluation of the Prophet taunting the dead of Badr and dumping their bodies into a well and having criminals die of thirst after hacking off their hands and legs.

People who use reason and logic never have to swallow their pride.

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