Thanks for the Profiliing - Allow me to return the favor

Submitted by Michel (United States), Jan 23, 2007 at 14:28

Susan - thanks for the profiling. I thus saved myself an expensive therapist.

2) second group composed of people that for social status, education, they believe themselves to be better than the rest,

Wrong. – your posts are evidence for that applying to you though.

more intelligent, more englighted, more open-mided.

True – in the latin sense of the word (ability to see, realize and understand a complex matter)

They are usually males, wealthy, graduated.

True – Aerospace exec, scientific viewpoint, intelligence/military background, security clearance, chess player and dog lover.

If they are richer they don't have to deal with the daily hassle of the average joe, they don't walk around in public transports, fearing for their lives or among the muslim people, they don't have to deal with it, they just meet some random muslim lawyer and believe all muslims are like him.
When they go to muslim countries, they are in some club mediterranee where tourists (and their money) are treated like royalty and when they see the stupid things happening in those countries (poligamy, over-breeding, women treated like cattle) they dismiss it as "cultural practices that we westerners don't understand".

Wrong – dear - what you write about, second hand hearsay knowledge about all those atrocities, I experienced first hand. Exactly the reason why it humbled me. I know the sound of a bullet whizzing by hitting the skull of a friend next to you. I know the emotional aftermath after a kill or a blown up market. I could talk about incredible acts of kindness and warmth in unbelievable misery. I could talk about unknown heroes including Muslims, having died protecting me against their own.

This dangerous group of people also have a chip on their shoudlers about christianity and the skeletons in the closet of the western civilization. They express it openly because it makes them feel more intelligent, as opposed to the average joe that they call "redneck racist" that possibly didn't study more than high school

Yes – we are dangerous – as we are cold, pragmatic, unemotional and thus hard to fight.

This second group is unfortunately the majority, or close to it, and they like to be different from first group, they also have this disease called "red cross nurse syndrome", the pathology that makes them believe we have to cure all the others' disease, including the sick minds of muslims. Because we have to keep our moral higher ground and because poor us, we have to cleanse our past of our atrocities by having others inflicting other atrocities on us.

May God forgive them, as they do not know what they do…. - it is because you have no idea as to reality out there - you so easily call for a Western style Dhihaad. From the safety of your desk you so easily condemn and hate and call for measures you can not possibly understand. Humility is a foreign word to you.
I have tried to remain civilized and respectful in tone - but you, Susan are a rep of a faction which is truly dangerous. You display all qualities of the ugly Muslim you depict. And you do not even realize it….. Roles reversed I could easily see you as Western Imam, shouting the very same doctrine of intolerance down to anyone willing to listen. I can not debate with you, as you do not give it a serious effort to internalize or even understand, what I try to promote.

Accepting the fact that we should appreciate some shortcomings of our own culture, makes me in your eyes a hater of Christianity or the West. Talking abut personal positive experiences with Muslims I met, makes me an unconditional Muslim lover. Standing for the moral high ground and principles of our society makes me in your eyes weak and passive and living in denial. You respect solely extreme opinions - everybody else is in your book "against you".

There is no way to have an intelligent debate with you. Not an inch of concession, introspective, or an effort to just try to appreciate the other point of view.

Allow me to profile you for a change:

Middle age to older woman, discriminated for gender in the past, if not abused as child, several unsuccessful relationships, educated, probably advanced degree, former eastern block, probably ex-refugee from a communistic country, possibly physically impaired, not many friends, bitter and disappointed with a dead end life, materialistic, yet not successful in that regard, years since having made love, dissatisfied, frustrated, angry at pretty much anyone including self, no children or single mother. I do not think you go out often and most likely suffer from high blood pressure.

How am I doing?

If I am wrong, Susan, then I must advise you, that this is, how you come across to any normal person.

If I am right, I can recommend several self-help tools as well as maybe getting a cat.

Well, I speak for myself, I don't care to be considered fanatic, racist, bigot, redneck if this will save my grand children from the new nazis, but for now the only one showing true ignorance is you.

It is not going to save them, is the tragic irony. It is going to doom them, if people like you become the majority. And yes - congratulation - you managed successfully to proudly be called all of the above.

As far as ignorance goes, I simply try to have the wisdom to accept and appreciate that I do not know everything. I am the very same flawed human being as the guy next door. Not better, not worse. Can you say the same for yourself?

Didn't think so. So much for ignorance.

Good luck to you. You'll need it.

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