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Its really simpleReader comment on item: How the West Could Lose Submitted by Mo (United Kingdom), Jan 28, 2007 at 22:16 You seem to have trouble grasping the notion that God Almighty wishes to guide the whole of Humanity through His choice of sending one man. He had done so, and so we have it. "Quran primarily addresses them" This statement by me is to be understood by the idea that because the Arabs were the people who received the revelation first. Humanity was addressed with the revelation of the Quran; God Almighty initiated this revelation through Muhammad (p) who was living in Arabia at the time, there is no conspiracy, I hope you do understand. "Why does the wise and all-knowing Allah then decide that the Arabic version of his message will or rather should be believed by all language groups. That is the crux of the probleml" Clever you… The Language Arabic is chosen for many reasons, its beautiful poetry, the intricacy of the language, its depth in meanings etc. It best befitted the majesty of God Almighty to reveal the verbal revelation into words. God's signs are many, some through miracles like healing the blind through a human, and others through the Quran, the very words of God. To simply answer your question, it isn't really a problem when all language groups do believe in the Quran, the actual feasibility of such an act from God is not so impossible, nor is it impractical, if such a book to be out of limits for non-Arabs, then surely it would not have been for any one else but for the Arabs themselves, but it is not, because it is for the whole of Humanity. The Quran is the most read, loved, revered, contemplated and memorised book in the world and Arabs only consist of 19.5% of the world's total Muslim population. It is only in the mind of a mortal, a human being severely bent criticising the Quran will ever come to think of such things. Notice the language used in the Quran (and I don't mean Arabic) directly addresses the Arabs, in the sense that it does for the believers and human kind in general. 7:158 that verse uses the word "nas" (Qul ya ayyuha alnNASsu) and you can go to your local Arabs and tell them what that word means in their language. Whether it is "people" or "Mankind," "clearly seems to indicate the Prophet is addressing the people in front of him. Can Dhimmi No More come in here and help." A sign of desperation… "It is not I who am emphatically stating the Koran is for Arabs, it is the Koran itself doing that as I showed you in those verses. As to your translation of the Arabic word to 'mankind', I find that it is only Pikthal who uses that word, the others always use 'men'. I have no Arabic. Dhimmi no More could help here. O men and O people don't carry the same meaning as O mankind. As to 'Oh you who believe', using the context thing of which you are so fond, they could only have been the Arabs who believed as there were no other believers then." So you have shown that the Quran has "emphatically" shown to be the book for the Arabs only! Unequivocal statements by the Quran that the Quran is for Arabs, wow, show me! You know you have tied yourself in a knot, you're trying to prove that the Word "NAS" means does not mean "mankind" as you say that you only find it in Pickthall, well let me enlighten you with some more, MUHAMMAD TAQI UD-DIN AL HILALI, DR. MUHSIN KHAN, YUSUF ALI, all use mankind in their translation. But even then, with the "men" written by the rest, can you not read the Quran that verses the precede and proceed the word cannot be in conjunction with a few individuals that were with the Prophet (p), they were amongst billions in the worlds. Does it not make sense that the Quran is actually addressing Human Kind at times, the non-Muslims at times and obviously the Muslims at times? I'm starting to think if you've actually read the Quran in full. "Good for you if it is not torture. Why has Allah made it hard for non-Arabs to get closer to the book of Allah. If this pro-Arab bias of Allah does not bother you, who am I to complain." LOL, you make me laugh again, you ask why? I'm thinking, is this the first time you actually asked this question to a Muslim? I am closer to my book of God than you will ever be to any of the other books that you have on your shelves. For that I guarantee. You may perceive the Quran as a pro-Arab bias, but it doesn't matter what you think really does it, because I'm not sure what it is you're trying to prove with your arguments. You are minor. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (2112) on this item
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