You have half the answer wrong

Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Feb 5, 2007 at 04:08

Canadian Chris wrote:

"But moving forward from the point you are making, we are observing a trend to demonize Muslims the way that Jews were demonized and de-humanized by the Nazis. Muslims are not a separate species of animal, they are our brothers and sisters that have a different philosophy."

No one is demonizing Muslims. We are simply acknowledging their reality. People are judged by their actions. And no, they are not my "brothers and sisters". They are barbarians, in the truest sense of the word (violent, tribal, uneducated people). They don't just have a "different philosophy", they have a non-civilized tribal culture.

"I maintain that I have witessed anti-fundamental preaching from the muslim community, as well as muslims decrying the violence that their religion is becoming known for."

Again, exceptions to the rule are just that...exceptions. Truly reform-minded, peaceful Muslims are not even an exception, they are more like an anomaly or aberration, that's how rare they are.

"I use this as an example of mainstream media reporting peaceful muslims. It may be only a token resistance at this point, but it is this resistance that must be encouraged and applauded."

Again, it is a case of far too little and far too late. It is just that, a token resistance that has no power and no influence. It will never succeed in spreading and reforming Islam.

"If the muslim community feels backed into a corner, the fundamentalists will certainly have the loudest voices. It is expansionism, sexism, violence, human rights abuses and fundamentalism that must be fought, and there is a significant amount of muslims that are behind this fight."

Really? A "significant amount"? Just how many are "significant"? See my reply to Plato on how Muslims right here in America always manage to stage protests when Muslim terrorists are arrested and how they manage to turn out in the tens of thousands to vote for a Muslim candidate with terrorist links, yet always failt to generate even one half of one percent of their population to protest terror and enact reform. Show me where significant progress is being made. Show me where 10,000 Muslims marched to claim Islam away from the terrorists and for peace.

I've said it before and I will say it again, you are believing in a fantasy. I keep saying this, and I challenge everyone (including Dr. Pipes) to prove me wrong, yet no one has been able to.

"You may only hear the sensationalist news that another terrorist has attacked, or that there is more sectarian violence, but it is rarely boring-old-nothing-happening-peace that gets into the news."

That would certainly be relevant if all I did was watch the mainstream media news. I rarely even bother. I simpy do my own research. I am like a scientist in that when I have a theory, the first thing I try to do is disprove it. I try harder to disprove it than I try to prove it. I'm my own greatest opponent, in a manner of speaking. This is why people have such a hard time refuting me. I've already researched and shot down their arguments before they even think of them.

"Remember that it is also Christians that have a doomsday prophecy that will pit believers against non-believers"

Irrelevant. It will not be Christians slaughtering innocents. It is said to be a battle against the forces of Hell, and will be done by angels, not Christians. It does not involve forced conversion or murdering innocents, or genocide. It is utterly irrelevant to our discussion.

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