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To Sohail:Reader comment on item: How the West Could Lose Submitted by Plato (India), Feb 15, 2007 at 00:21 Now read it: "O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. 9:28-9" So you go with the Koran when it says that us infidels are unclean physically/spiritually. How would it make you feel if some scripture, say the Hindus', says Muslims are unclean do not go near them? And do you know why Allah says if you fear poverty don't worry his bounty is alwas available? The Prophet is saying that because he knows many Muslims felt if the pagans are banned from the Mosque a good part of their revenues would dry up.And what is this bounty Allah is offering? You guessed right it is booty by raiding neighbouring tribes. The verse below is talking about how Allah helped the Muslims: "If ye help not (your leader), (it is no matter): for Allah did indeed help him, when the Unbelievers drove him out: he had no more than one companion; they two were in the cave, and he said to his companion, "Have no fear, for Allah is with us": then Allah sent down His peace upon him, and strengthened him with forces which ye saw not, and humbled to the depths the word of the Unbelievers. But the word of Allah is exalted to the heights: for Allah is Exalted in might, Wise. Go ye forth, (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive and struggle, with your goods and your persons, in the cause of Allah. That is best for you, if ye (but) knew. 9:40-1" These are other verses encouraging Muslims to go out and fight. Allah is giving the example of the Prophet's hiding in a cave with Abu Bakr and their pursuers not being able to locate them because Allah helped. Allah will send down his angels to help Muslims win when they fight the pagans, so have no fear whether lightly or heavily armed victory is yours. This is just another war cry of Allah. "The only reason Allah tells us to fight in his cause his for this reason: And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!" Quran 4:75" Sohail, in his lifetime which tribe or people did your prophet free from oppression, whom did he protect. The Banu Kunaika, the Banu Nadir, were all ravaged. And the Banu Quraiza savagely destroyed. All the males beheaded, the women and children enslaved and sold in the slave market to purchase arms. Would like to be rescued from your oppressors by this 'merciful' prophet? Can you please name any tribe or people he freed from oppression? Your Koran also allows the taking of booty. 8:69 But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear God: for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. What kind of rescue job is it when the rescuer helps himself to the property of the rescued, including his women and children, who are part of the war loot? "It is not my fault those people were led astray by the evil." No it is not your fault, it is Allah's fault because if he was omnipotent how could he not convince the majority of humankind about his powers. Here is where Allah admits to his own fault: 095.004 -006 We have indeed created man in the best of moulds, Then do We abase him (to be) the lowest of the low,- Except such as believe and do righteous deeds: For they shall have a reward unfailing. Allah creates humans in the best of moulds and then proceeds to debase them like a child making a shape in moulding clay and then crumpling it. If Allah has himself debased people how can they become righteous? 113.001-002 Say: I seek refuge with the Lord of the Dawn From the mischief of created things; The creator is Allah, so the mischief is also Allah's 091.007-008: And the soul and Him Who made it perfect, Then He inspired it to understand what is right and wrong for it; Allah makes a perfect soul. How can a perfect soul do wrong? Unless Allah himself inspires him to do wrong. Sohail your Allah is a very confused being which tells us why the Koran is jumble of verses contradicting each other and making no sense to the unwary reader.
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