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platoReader comment on item: How the West Could Lose Submitted by susan (Italy), Feb 17, 2007 at 11:52 "It takes some time for people to pick up a language and you began your imperialistic career a bit late, the others having beaten you to it by a long margin and you also had to leave pretty quick. " thanks for admitting that it was pretty stupid to call me imperialistic, which is by the way the typical word used by communists and third worlders (such yourself) "What is this something to be proud of - it is the fact that you were not imperialists of the British, Dutch... kind. " why not admitting you have a chip on your shoulder because your 3rd world country has been conquered in the past (and this way your people received medicines, progress giving nothing in exchange) instead of diverting the subject to communist way of thinking of colonialism and imperialism? "That is, it is convenient for you to become amnesic about them. " I have never been amnesic in my whole life, it's leftist communists like yourself always pointing the finger at colonialist west, rather than the crimes of your own kind of people. "Papal empire. Sort of figure of speech meaning the Catholic world of the time , note the alphapbet 'e' is not in capital. I forgot that you don't use caps. Just telling you that Catholocism ruled the roost in Europe in those far off days. I thought Protestantism reared its head after Isabella. Again maybe I am wrong but it was the Roman Catholic Church that established the Inquisition in Spain" Well, let's start from the true assumption that you are always wrong. Secondly, it was also the church that abolished inquisition, restored Galileo, pushed to abolish slavery and gave a kick to communism. So what? Oh I see, by being very amnesiac about all this you cannot stand up on a plate and repeat the old mantra that all religions are evil and your personal favourite one "the western world is to be doomed because of colonialism". ""Ask Mo, Sohail, Syed Mohammed Ali, Raqib, Shakeel... how much I admire Muslims. " I don't talk to muslims, other than to offend them. There is no contact with me and those people. "I am not mistaking you for anybody else but from the attitudes that you display I am beginning to think that you are a Muslims in disguise. " If to get rid of them I have to become like them, then be it. I have no intentions to become like yourself. "You are not needled. Then why the vitriol." where is the vitriol? oh, I guess truth hurts to people like yourself "The word Muslim to you is like the word Jew to a Nazi." actually the opposite, the word muslim to me is like nazi to a jew. The muslims are killing us, not the opposite. The distorted view of the situation tells it all about you. "Like Jane Goody on the Big Brother show, since you seem to know about third world habits, especially of Asia, would you also not eat food I prepare not knowing where my fingers have been. " unlike yourself busy self-loathing and watching cheap tv shows I had to google intensively to know who this goody was. I am not interested in your eating habits etc., I merely talked about what you portrayed here, lies, propaganda, misinformation, finger pointing at the faults of the west as source of all problems, self-loathing. That is collectively "your habits". The fact that some people in the 3rd world like yourself agree with you is because they don't feel proud that someone else brought civilization to them. Get over it. More or less every people has been conquered. You ain't nobody special to feel super partes. "Let me tell about the third world complex. Who gave it to us? Your European brothers with their ‘white man's burden' complex. We have been taught we are ‘third' rate and you are ‘first' rate in all matters. " again it's a fault of the west, again same old babbling. Grow up and take responsibility of your own failures. "Muslim deny they are conquest-happy, they are only peaceful Allah believers. Just go on denying you conquored anyone or colonised anyone against all the evidence. " Told you the roman empire had great conquests, I am not denying evidence, pretty much the whole europe was Roman. Where did I have deny that? "Just change the ‘is' you have used to ‘was' in all your sentences with a few other required changes and see what comes to the surface. " plato, the past is not the present tense. If I say Islam was a violent cult is not the same as saying Islam is a violent cult. If I say muslims used to kill christians it's very different than saying muslims kills christians. Time matters. "Why have you not completed ‘it was firstly used?" the term kamikaze is of japanese origin, the term is itself japanese, does this mean the japaneses are kamikazes? "Who asked you for evidence that the Somalis speak Italian. The Goans of India do not speak Portuguese despite a 400-year rule. So the Portuguse were not colonists there? You have a convenient way of defining what is imperialism, conveniently taking Italy out of the picture. Good for the conscience." learn how to use the past tense and present tense. ...
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