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Submitted by Sohail (United Kingdom), Feb 18, 2007 at 06:31

My good man they aren't allowed to approach the sacred mosque because they are unclean isn't it?

Jews are not allowed to approach the dome of rock because some Jewish faith leaders say they are unclean.

Then what kind of a Muslim are you. Let me repeat what I quoted from the Koran: 002.216 : Fighting is enjoined on you, and it is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allahknows, while you do not know.

Fighting is enjoined on you even if you dislike it. Can you as a true Muslim argue with that except with the time worn context excuse.

You should have mentioned the next verse:

They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein. 2:217

Your one-liners are gems of brevity but leaves us readers in as much darkness as when we read them. This particular line tells me that you believe the pagans were oppressors. Whom did they oppress, themselves? Did your prophet not oppress them by constantly nagging them about their idols being false gods. Your prophet also had no compunction in persecuting people until they believed in his Allah. From Sirat rasul allah (Ibn Ishaq), page 319: I (Umar B Wahb) used to be active in extinguising the light of God and in persecuting those who followed God's religion. I should like you Mohammed) to give me permission to go to Mecca to summon them to God and his apostle and to Islam that perhaps God may guide them; and if not I will persecute them in their religion as I used to persecute your companions.' The apostle agreed and he went to Mecca.....When Umayr came to Mecca he stayed there summoning people to islam and treating those who opposed him violently so that through him many became Muslims.

Here is your Prophet of mercy permitting persecution of people to convert them. This is the same Prophet who complained bitterly about Meccans persecuting him for abusing their sacred symbols. Sohail the pagans never persecuted anyone unless they were provoked but your prophet went about persecuting people who were pagans. And that continues to this day. Wherever there is Islam there is oppression.

Muhammad thus could have killed all those pagans when he conquered Mecca, but he didn't.

Sohail

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