To Plato - You made a key observation - allow me to take it a bit further

Submitted by Michel (United States), Feb 25, 2007 at 13:11

The vigor that you see in the Muslim world is the vigor of the fulminations of frustrated imams unable to explain the sorry condition of Muslims everywhere. Their Allah tells Muslims that he will give them victory over the infidels and that Muslims are his chosen people. So what can the imams do. They fill themselves and their Muslim listeners up with hot air to try and frighten the infidels. Those muscles you see require only a pin prick for them to collapse as you saw happen in the Middle East and in India.

And why is that? What does it lead to?

In the case of Gaddhafi it led to ice cold pragmatism. Wealth, prosperity, stability, trade - above and before religion.
The same applies to several middle eastern states. I am certainly not condoning this ex terrorist and dictator who probably was as bad as saddam at times, but he is in fact such an example where macchiavellism overrides religion.

Me too is an incredibly powerful driving force. You can see it at work in Jordan or even better Turkey which is willing to make significant concessions in order to join the EU.

While economic disparity has a sad quality to usually produce fanaticism and terrorism on one end of the bell curve, it aways also strengthened the powers of reform on the other.

Turkey will by design (EU law) eventually become a template for peaceful co-existence and hence prosperity and other Muslim countries will follow. Within a resonably short time frame I forecast migratory trends towards Turkey.

I believe that humans are inherently good and refuse to believe that the silent majority of peaceful Muslims will remain silent for much longer, while some fanatics are causing this backlash of suspicion and fear throughout the rest of the world - proof in point - just look at the last headlines above......

Every second Muslim, in other words hundreds of Millions of them, are out to kill us or believe it ids right to do so??? I have no words but can only shake my head in utter disbelief. To make matters worse, this is no holocaust victim, but an educated woman from Italy, stuffed to the rim with historical facts. The computer got the RAM, bui the motherboard is a mess.

Plato - are you aware of the fact that you try to reason with re-incarnations of Goebbels? I did not need reading their posts, but just the subject lines to understand, that they disqualify themselves, lose any credibility and in a form self-destruct right there already. You do not need reading and responding yo their contributions to come to the result that, what we see here is nothing but the ramblings of Western Style Immams, as unimportant, irrelevant, non-representative and despicable as the members of the Taliban or this idiot in Birmingham. The frustration not to be able to indoctrinate us against Islam shows.

I am kind of amazed that no one has showed up here yet to shoot me, albeit they would probably love to exterminate me - and I am not even Muslim, I might add. But then again, Cowards never follow through. The black watch all over again, where everybody who is or thinks not pure shall be eradicated. A wonderful example for our truly perverted Freedom of Speech indeed.

Well, - I am off to my happy life, go to the beach and will not waste any more of dogtime on this.

Let them continue to self-destruct, is my advice.

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