Our dear M&M and Abul Qasim's last sermon

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 26, 2007 at 19:52

So Abul Qasim said that? Oh yeah? And what is your source? Let me guess: The bogus unhistorical sira?

Now we need to talk about the bogus sira and real history:

The Sira/Maghazi literature:

The source of Muhammad's Sira is Ibn Ishaq the grandson of a Christian Syrian and ibn Ishaq died in 767CE, about 125 years after the death of Muhammad! Can you imagine if you and I are trying to write let us say a biopgraphy of Abraham Lincoln with out any extant written sources? Our little biography will be nothing but nonsense and this is indeed the main trouble with muhammad's sira. It is unhistorical.

But you know what? Ibn Ishaq's sira is not even extant. Do you know what this means? We do not have a copy of it. The sira we have is Ibn Hisham's redaction (editing) of Ibn ishaq's sira. Ibn Hisham was born and died in Egypt in the city of Fustat and more likely than not he never left Egypt and he died around 832CE (I stand corrected about the exact year) but he died 200 years after the death of Muhammad. Just imagine what did he know about the historical Muhammad. The chances are not too much. So how did he get such information about Abul Qasim?

Well, the answer is very clear: The sira is very much another exegesis of the Quranic logias and pericopes and it for sure follows the same classes of tafseer and ahadith (haggadic, halakhic, masoretic, rhetorical, allegorical). So you see the hadith is sira and the sira is hadith and both are tafseer. Now do you get it?

So how about our dear Abul Qasim's little speach infront of thousands of people? The chances are it is unhistorical and it is clearly anachronistic.

But again if you can believe that a caravan raider and an Arabian warlord is the prophet of the god of the unviverse, you can believe that he gave a speech that is the exact opposite of what the Qur'an says, and that is Islam is the religion of the arabs only.

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