To Dhimmi No More: permission to quote sought

Submitted by Plato (India), Mar 5, 2007 at 22:29

First off, dhimmi no more I must ask your permission to quote you in other forums or articles. The Yusuf Ali translation of the Koran, the most quoted translation by Muslims alludes to the Banu Quraiza incident in his comentary, hence my use of the story. I knew that the Koran is a mish-mash of someone sounding off about things happening around him, including prurient stuff like the incident with Maria, Zaynab. But it also appears from your analysis of Islamic sources that the stories about the prophet and the incidents could have been manufactured later to fit the Koranic verses. That the Koran's origin could have been outside the Hijaz or even Arabia can have a devastating effect on the beliefs of Muslims.

Dhimmi no more, I think if you can bring out a criticism of the Koran and other Islamic sources by marshalling the evidence you have been quoting here it would be an important addition to a deconstruction of Islamic theology. I have just begun reading Ibn Warraq's 'What the Koran Rreally Says' and have yet to come across the information you have provided here.

My appearance on this forum is only to show Muslim readers that what is actually in the Koran and their traditions is a far cry from what they believe i.e. Islam is peaceful, that it does not exhort believers to violence, that Mohammed was ethical in his behaviour, that it does not require all other religions to submit to Islamic hegemony.

You may have noticed from the posts of Muslims that they labour under the impression that Islam is a beautiful religion with a prophet whose behaviour as a human being was exemplary. Presented with evidence from sources they respect (though they may not be authentic historically) many have fallen silent. I am sure some of them are agonising over the evidence for the contrary to what they have been conned into believing by their madrassa education,their imams.

You wrote: "Now in regard to the Armenian genocide, I will not go back through your posts, but you tell me: Were there such a thing as the Armenain genocide? And were Armenians subjected to such atrocity in part because they were Christians? Here is your chance to tell us one more time."

Tellling you one more time: Since you don't wish to read my previous posts where there is no such denial, let me tell in language that cannot be misunderstood. The evidence for the massacre of the Armenians is overwhelming and it is like asking me whether I deny the Holocaust happened .As to the second question this not very different from asking whether millions of German citizens were subjected to atrocities because they were Jews. Sure they were, but was Hitler a Christian?

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