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Pre-empt which terrorist?Reader comment on item: [Brandon Mayfield and] Preempt Terrorists, Or Not? Submitted by Truth-Teller (United Kingdom), Oct 4, 2007 at 19:23 The usual arguments: Muslims are terrorists; Arab's are terrorists; Muslims have no respect for life; Islam is a death-cult; the non-Muslim West sets peoples free and spreads democracy; Islam is oppressive. So, pre-emptive attacks? Not one to shirk the issues; let's have a look shall we… I think a good place to start is perhaps to examine the evidence of history 1. Genocide of aboriginal peoples of the Americas (1490 onwards) a "string of genocide campaigns" by non-Muslim Europeans and their descendants; recorded as the most massive act of genocide in the history of the world (keep in mind Muslims had been travelling to the Americas intermarrying and trading here for 500 years without any genocide) 100 MILLION DEAD (80% of the population) 2. The Slave Trade (1700 - 1865) non-Muslim Europeans "perfect" using humans as chattels not merely in servitude, although small numbers of native Arab and Africans are involved in the selling of slaves, the killing and brutality is almost entirely a Western non-Muslim phenomenon; over 20% of the slaves taken to the USA are Muslims from West Africa 20 MILLION DEAD 3. Genocide of aboriginal peoples of Australia (early 1800s) non-Muslim British and Europeans almost completely wipe out the native peoples of Australia. The intentional displacement of aboriginal children and the eradication of the aboriginal civilisation was still practiced by the Australian government into the 1960s and 1970s 4 MILLION DEAD (over 90% of the population) 4. The Scramble for Africa (1800s onwards) non-Muslim European powers (including Britain, France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, Spain, Italy, Portugal) divide up Africa into sections and commit wide scale genocide and atrocities. 50 – 100 MILLION DEAD 5. World War I (1914 - 1918) non-Muslim European powers wage war on each other and amongst others Muslim territories 20 MILLION DEAD 6. World War II (1918 - 1945) non-Muslim European powers wage war on each other and amongst others Muslim territories; notable because although the "Nazi Holocaust was among the most evil genocides in history… the Allies' firebombing of Dresden and nuclear destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were also war crimes" (Gregory H. Stanton president of Genocide Watch) 50 MILLION DEAD 7. Mao's regime in China (1949 - 1975) non-Muslim Chinese totalitarian regime commits atrocities including Labour Camps and ‘revolutions' 30 - 50 MILLION DEAD 8. Asian Invasion Pt 1 - The French Indochina War aka The "Dirty War" (1946 – 1954) non-Muslim Western forces try to ravage East Asia with one of three wars. First imperialist France tries to invade and assert itself in Indochina (Vietnam). Notable as the United States was supporting 80% of the French war costs and then spent 5 years building forces to then carry on with the Vietnam War to keep Western dominance. ½ MILLION DEAD 9. Asian Invasion Pt 2 - The Korean War (1950 – 1953) Senator McCarthy (McCarthy witch hunts) calls US President Truman soft on communism; instead of going to Congress for approval for the War Truman goes to the UN. Build up in Korea and South Vietnam is the prelude for the Vietnam War. ½ MILLION DEAD 10. Asian Invasion Pt 3 - The Vietnam War (1959 - 1975) the non-Muslim Government of the United States, on the basis of the Gulf of Tonkin incident, invades Vietnam and wage war against the peaceful indigenous peoples. Notable for use of chemical warfare and also use of herbicides which changed the landscape, causes diseases and birth defects and poisoned the food chain 5 MILLION DEAD 11. US military interventionist policy in Central and South America – simply put the list is too endless MILLIONS DEAD AND DISPLACED We haven't included British Imperialism, the Crusades, the Western invasion of the Middle East, the issue of Zionism and many others besides including Palestine, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Iraq, former Yugoslav republic, Lebanon etc etc. Next, Iran? If you argue "well let's leave ancient history to one side" firstly why should we… it is highly relevant after all. Of course you want to brush to one side these events. Lets look at more recent events... we know that since 1945 the US has tried to illegally overthrow over 50 Governments. The US has violated international laws, rules of engagement, used illegal and extraordinary rendition, suspended habeas corpus and have installed vicious genocidal military dictatorships all over the world, funding and arming them. It is about one thing…..SCALE …anyone can pick and choose so-called Muslim involvement in wars and atrocities but in reality it is scale of the killing by the non-Muslim West who so lack the morality that they are the ones actually AS WE SPEAK spreading torture, killing, carpet bombing, invading, arming and playing politick. The British and the US in particular have an unrivalled and unparalleled history of blood thirsty violence against innocent peoples around the world. Is there any question about it? There is a simple explanation of why there are record numbers of conversions in the WEST to Islam… for social justice, fair trade and a sense of morality and unity that is simply UNFATHOMABLE by 'your people'. Tell your Zionist leaders, your neo-cons and the islamaphobes….their propaganda machine doesn't work anymore… people aren't buying it. A revolution is coming. How on earth can anyone talk of Muslim oppression, the "fear" of Muslim's taking over or a so-called Muslim hatred of Freedoms. Muslims live for freedom, the freedom to practice their faith without fear of persecution, to leave in peace. Purely and simply it is the pot calling the kettle black. You are hoping that people will forget, you are hoping people don't question what they are brainwashed with at school … God forbid they should start thinking INDEPENDENTLY. So, back to the issue… pre-emptive strikes??? Against who exactly? Don't take my word for it, who does history prove to tbe the bad guys.... who has the tendency, who has proven their bloodthirstiness and aggression throughout the ages... the latest justification might be 'pre-emption' but it is clear who is the right hand of Satan and it may well take the second coming of the Messiah, such a mess you have made, but it is irrefutably clear who should be stopped and 'pre-empted'. 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