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Submitted by Harvey United Kingdom (European Union), Oct 7, 2007 at 07:37

I was born and live in London.I am proud of this fact for a variety of reasons but none more so then the cultural , racial and religious respect and freedom shown to all minorities of this great city and indeed the country.

As in America ,we have a tradition of opening our doors to the oppressed ,those that are fleeing from war torn lands or poverty and wish to create a newand better life for themslves. This has been the case since the 17th century starting with the Huguenots and followed by the Irish ,the Jews ,and then in the 1950s Afro Carribeans and Hindus and Sikhs from the Indian sub-continent. The 1970s was a time for a new wave of immigration . Asians fleeing the tryanny of African dictators such as Idi Amin.At around this time we witnessed the first Muslim immigrants from Bangladesh and Pakistan.

For the most part ,it has worked well . Each new wave of immigrants has quickly adapted to their new circumstances whilst contributing to society They have usually assimilated within one generation and have sufficiently improved their circumstances enabling them to move away from their first point of entry ,the East End of London ,a poor and crime ridden suburb.

In turn the British, although renouned for their reserve ,have become accustomed , and in their own way accepting of the changes around them .No one now gives a second look at Orthodox Jews in black garb Sikhs in Turbans ,Muslim women in Burquas,etc.Nor should they .

Unfortunately ,and for complex reasons , this has not been entirely the case for Asian Muslims.There has been a distinct failure to assimilate within the wider community, While it is understandable that newly arrived immigrants would have difficulty mastering English,it is a sad fact that many first and even second generation Muslims are more comfortable in Urdu then English.This is not helped by a left wing policy of political correctness which stipulates all printed leaflets in education and the health system to be printed in various languages.

The Asian Muslim community has the highest rate of illiteracy and unemployment in the Capital,and this is undoubtedly due to the adherence to a religious diktat which upholds the absolute notion of seperation from the wider community, its language and customs not to mention a distrust of British establishment including the police etc.

Today ,young Muslims are tought to be Muslims first -there is no second - to the point of failing to provide the police with information on another Muslim ,even if it is for the security of the wider community.

In effect ,what we have now is a minority ,all be it a large one ,of disaffected young Muslims who are indoctrinated into hatred for non -muslims,Kuffir.

We now have the spectacle of radicalised Muslims fighting British and American troops in Irak and Afghanistan ,blowing themselvesup in Tel Aviv and London and elsewhere .It could be said that this is a tiny minority of Muslims ,However it is the case that some 30%of the Muslim population under 35 have been sufficiently radicalised to have sympathy with the cause of the Terrorist .

To this end ,some 800 out of 1400 mosques have been taken over by a radical Muslim sect ,the Dalbandi ,in order to further exasperate the climate of hatred and seperation.

It is for our government and our government alone to recognise the extreme threat our society finds itself under.

The hope that the so called moderate Muslim community will contribute to this effort is looking very much like wishful thinking at this moment,

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the 5 reasons linking Mayfield to terror [158 words]HarryOct 23, 2007 11:00112191
Not entirely correct... [176 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
j greerOct 16, 2007 10:29111598
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Islam and Islamism [110 words]A.M DelcambreOct 8, 2007 08:27110720
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Wahabi Islam is spreading in France and Maghreb mosques [60 words]Egyptian ChristianOct 10, 2007 07:11110720
Islam and Islamism - Logic and Problem [180 words]SinghaOct 10, 2007 12:29110720
I agree with you Nessie [80 words]mytwocentsOct 13, 2007 13:41110720
1French islamologist [115 words]jennifer solisOct 30, 2007 00:01110720
poor Eurabia.. [36 words]donvanOct 31, 2007 14:46110720
Our tolerant society [600 words]Harvey United KingdomOct 7, 2007 07:37110609
No doubt.. [103 words]donvanOct 31, 2007 14:40110609
Prehaps Brandon Mayfield was the culprit. [246 words]Lee MertzOct 6, 2007 17:35110550
Returning to 9/10? [233 words]MauriceOct 6, 2007 05:15110501
The Phony War [450 words]HarveyOct 5, 2007 17:58110436
Most Americans and Europeans only know how to enjoy their freedom [494 words]Ken BesigOct 5, 2007 03:52110386
masterly comment [33 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDOct 11, 2007 16:24110386
Judge Aiken's faulty decision [19 words]Richard FinnOct 4, 2007 21:30110369
Pre-empt which terrorist? [1028 words]Truth-TellerOct 4, 2007 19:23110357
"Truth"-Teller's Inflated Totals [132 words]jennifer solisOct 5, 2007 21:15110357
Reply To Truth Teller [435 words]Seamus MacNemiOct 6, 2007 02:15110357
Truth Teller [281 words]HarveyOct 6, 2007 07:06110357
Truth Teller Part 2 [122 words]HarveyOct 6, 2007 07:22110357
Our dear TT and comparing al-tufah wa al-burtuqan [460 words]dhimmi no moreOct 6, 2007 08:26110357
WHAT THEN SHOULD WE DO? [457 words]Geno M.Oct 4, 2007 15:01110340
Geno M. [472 words]shaynaOct 4, 2007 17:22110340
Valid Points. [146 words]YnnatchkahOct 4, 2007 23:08110340
In Answer To Geno M. [319 words]Seamus MacNemiOct 5, 2007 08:53110340
This is an invitation... [60 words]Garden LadyOct 5, 2007 11:41110340
"Muslim Affected Personality Disorder" [154 words]donvanOct 5, 2007 16:31110340
Islam is as Islam does [223 words]Geno M.Oct 5, 2007 17:53110340
retaliation - how? [72 words]G.VishvasOct 4, 2007 14:31110337
I think America did not yet undertand the enemy or still underestimate its power. Preemption should be taken to higher levels. [390 words]Egyptian ChristianOct 4, 2007 10:27110316
Egyptian Christian [475 words]shaynaOct 4, 2007 17:58110316
How indeed [102 words]David W. LincolnOct 4, 2007 20:23110316
my advice to egyptian christian [182 words]syed mohammad aliOct 5, 2007 05:32110316
Peace ... [108 words]donvanOct 5, 2007 17:17110316
Our dear Syed al-tablighee and the Copts [583 words]dhimmi no moreOct 7, 2007 08:28110316
shame on you muhammad ali [51 words]johnOct 8, 2007 06:08110316
1Wannabe Arabs don't want to remenber their own preislamic culture !!! [188 words]JaladhiOct 8, 2007 22:13110316
Thank you Jaladhi [40 words]dhimmi no moreOct 10, 2007 07:27110316
dhimmi my ancestor never be hindu's i have my old family tree [109 words]syed mohammad aliOct 10, 2007 13:04110316
forgive me if I've got this wrong [84 words]bosOct 13, 2007 03:41110316
surprising mohammed ali [176 words]steve blackmoreOct 13, 2007 12:54110316
More gems from our dear Syed [312 words]dhimmi no moreOct 13, 2007 17:12110316
Syed and Steve [327 words]DonOct 13, 2007 23:19110316
response to syed mohammad ali [61 words]YovenOct 15, 2007 14:20110316
mr steve you stay in muslim country [82 words]syed mohammad aliOct 16, 2007 13:18110316
We could anticipate ! [240 words]A.M DelcambreOct 4, 2007 06:10110308
Madam Delcambre [263 words]YnnatchkahOct 11, 2007 23:18110308
Under my microscope ! [223 words]A.M. DelcambreOct 12, 2007 18:53110308
Well said [109 words]dhimmi no moreOct 13, 2007 08:11110308
Flying With Turkeys [214 words]jennifer solisOct 4, 2007 04:09110301
Remembering Grandmothers, and Lovingly Modifying Their Admonitions to Meet the Times. [407 words]marianaOct 5, 2007 17:25110301
Very good question, Mariana [110 words]jennifer solisNov 13, 2007 14:27110301
For Jennifer: On the NYT & WaPo... And Their Blessed EPIPHANY This Week! [422 words]MarianaDec 3, 2007 19:40110301
original intent of the founders [148 words]John PhilipsOct 4, 2007 03:01110297
We are not an ethnic group or race... [58 words]P. Sydney HerbertOct 4, 2007 18:55110297
Mosques, Worship Centers Or Origins Of Violence ? [232 words]clarence paul puckettOct 4, 2007 23:13110297
Bush's actions have always shown him to be soft on the sponsors of terrorism [407 words]Rachel Garber, PhiladelphiaOct 3, 2007 21:07110272
The Left is winning (Preempt Terrorists or Not) [147 words]MikeOct 3, 2007 20:49110271
Mike [43 words]shaynaOct 4, 2007 18:03110271
left lolling in legal limbo [909 words]Rebecca MouldsOct 3, 2007 18:19110243
Love of American Freedoms Lost for the Lack of Their Defense [254 words]M. ToveyOct 3, 2007 17:52110242
Two threads [66 words]David W. LincolnOct 3, 2007 16:27110236
Preempt Terrorists [187 words]M.D. AnthonyOct 3, 2007 15:50110231
Patriot Act. [285 words]YnnatchkahOct 3, 2007 14:27110222
Proactive instead of Preempt... [301 words]AamirOct 3, 2007 14:08110221
Depends on the crime [136 words]SSOct 3, 2007 16:55110221
Judge [105 words]Donald W. BalesOct 3, 2007 14:07110220
As You said.... [332 words]YnnatchkahOct 4, 2007 02:29110220
What ever will be will be [517 words]SSOct 3, 2007 14:06110219
Martial Law, SS? [126 words]YnnatchkahOct 3, 2007 14:45110219
True - but you cannot prove what has not happened [124 words]SSOct 3, 2007 16:15110219
True SS about CAIR's Islamist metastasis [139 words]YnnatchkahOct 4, 2007 16:05110219
SS, I think you're too optimistic [86 words]Charles MartelOct 4, 2007 17:38110219
Bush-whacked! [696 words]john w mcginleyOct 3, 2007 13:23110214
Prevention is better than cure? [976 words]Truth-TellerOct 3, 2007 11:00110201
Truth-Teller [484 words]shaynaOct 3, 2007 15:32110201
Shayna: Satan is good to Islamic Fundamentalists like Truth Teller. [329 words]YnnatchkahOct 3, 2007 19:13110201
Goodby U.K. [190 words]Blame the Big mean U.S.A.Oct 3, 2007 23:49110201
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Seamus MacNemi [146 words]shaynaOct 4, 2007 16:39110201
Hate Destroys The Hater [53 words]Seamus MacNemiOct 5, 2007 10:10110201
I hope you are right Seamus [226 words]Blame the Big mean U.S.A.Oct 5, 2007 21:29110201
Impressive, Shayna [21 words]jennifer solisOct 6, 2007 23:44110201

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