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Wide acclaim?
Reader comment on item: Zionism's Bleak Present
Submitted by Syarikat (Netherlands), Oct 11, 2007 at 11:28
Last month, for example, the Netherlands' Princess Máxima, wife to the heir to the throne, announced to wide acclaim that "The Dutch identity does not exist."
Wide acclaim? I don't think so. Yes the goverment has endorsed the comments, and so have some other members of the political and journalistic elite. But the remarks have also drawn much criticsm - including from monarchist groups and a heated debate in the print and online media.
http://www.nieuwsblad.be/Article/Detail.aspx?articleid=HJ1IC8L6_1
http://www.hln.be/hlns/cache/det/art_606959.html?wt.bron=RSS
http://www.wereldomroep.nl/actua/nl/samenleving/071008_maxima
http://www.depers.nl/binnenland/105895/Máxima-Nederland-is-één-koekje-bij-de-koffie.html
http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/173550/rss/true/index.html
http://www.hetvrijevolk.com/?pagina=4511&titel=Maxima_schaft_Nederlandse_identiteit_af
http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1079822
etc.
But yes the political elite is trying to stamp out any sense of national identity in many Western countries. Who needs enemies with leaders like that?
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| How far they go [229 words] | J. Stein | Nov 3, 2009 18:31 | 164017 | ||
| Burg praises pseudo-historical book by Shlomo Sand [112 words] | Jason | Nov 1, 2009 18:04 | 163937 | ||
| Zionism [65 words] | David Gueiros | Nov 7, 2007 15:10 | 113352 | ||
| Israel shares the same conundrum as the rest of the west. [584 words] | Homefront | Oct 22, 2007 20:54 | 112161 | ||
 There won't be an Islamic world government. [321 words] | Katey | Oct 26, 2007 15:04 | 112161 | ||
| I would never postulate an Islamic world government [168 words] | Homefront | Oct 27, 2007 05:11 | 112161 | ||
| Maybe not. [175 words] | Kattey | Oct 27, 2007 21:00 | 112161 | ||
| Let Arabs prove ancient existence in Israel. [298 words] | Kattey Wagar | Oct 22, 2007 12:53 | 112137 | ||
| Kattey don't bother [423 words] | Homefront | Oct 22, 2007 21:32 | 112137 | ||
| Another example of Islamic Historical revisionist nonsense [44 words] | Homefront | Oct 22, 2007 21:59 | 112137 | ||
| A Note of Thanks: Very Interesting [438 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 23, 2007 05:34 | 112137 | ||
| I agree -- Israel should fight the archaeology issue hard [132 words] | Charles Martel | Oct 23, 2007 12:52 | 112137 | ||
| Religious beliefs of Muslims. [392 words] | Kate Wagar | Oct 25, 2007 18:28 | 112137 | ||
| Delightful news indeed [46 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 26, 2007 01:10 | 112137 | ||
| MPD [206 words] | donvan | Oct 26, 2007 12:35 | 112137 | ||
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| Good Idea - Requested Fox to Show the Clips -- Would Columbia U Have Invited and Given Him the World Stage for Free Speech? [78 words] | Sofa Sogood | Oct 21, 2007 10:41 | 111726 | ||
| I don't think so [71 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 24, 2007 14:51 | 111726 | ||
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| ONLY SOLUTION TO PALI-ISRAELI CONFLICT [106 words] | Bruce Sterling | Oct 15, 2007 16:55 | 111513 | ||
| Bruce Sterling [349 words] | shayna | Oct 16, 2007 17:00 | 111513 | ||
| How the palestinians overcome their racism, cultural imperialism and religious intolerance. [87 words] | Egyptian Christian | Oct 18, 2007 10:53 | 111513 | ||
| DON'T DESPAIR [79 words] | Bruce Sterling | Oct 15, 2007 08:35 | 111504 | ||
| A modest proposal [134 words] | Bob | Oct 15, 2007 02:24 | 111497 | ||
| "MEDIA WAR AGAINST ISRAEL: FROM INVERSION OF THE TRUTH TO INVERSION OF REALITY" [1592 words] | Sofa Sogood | Oct 14, 2007 17:17 | 111475 | ||
| Don't worry about Israel, Dr Pipes ! [232 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Oct 14, 2007 13:47 | 111458 | ||
| Not just Israel at risk [184 words] | lee bailey | Oct 14, 2007 11:12 | 111439 | ||
| Why all the fuss about Jewish nationalism ? [507 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Oct 14, 2007 06:55 | 111427 | ||
| Dhimmitude [162 words] | yuval Brandstetter MD | Oct 16, 2007 01:32 | 111427 | ||
| Famous Oxford Union Debating Society - Hosting One-Sided "Death to Israel" Debate Starring David Irving, Holocaust Denier and Other Notorious Anti-Semites [184 words] | Sofa Sogood | Oct 13, 2007 20:49 | 111403 | ||
| Zionist responsibility [114 words] | Gene C. Sproul | Oct 13, 2007 18:10 | 111399 | ||
| Mr. Sproul: maybe your friend should be outraged at what Palestinians have been doing. [733 words] | Dr RJP | Oct 15, 2007 22:45 | 111399 | ||
| Inconvenient "truths" [392 words] | Gene C. Sproul | Oct 16, 2007 18:58 | 111399 | ||
| "Inconvenient lies? [739 words] | Dr RJP | Oct 18, 2007 14:32 | 111399 | ||
| Mr Sproul and the inconvenient truths [328 words] | Harvey | Oct 19, 2007 12:33 | 111399 | ||
| Palestinian Refugees and the "Right of Return [640 words] | Gene C. Sproul | Oct 19, 2007 18:23 | 111399 | ||
| Conservatives see Carter as a coo-coo, too. Want the real scoop? Read Joan Peters [405 words] | Dr RJP | Oct 21, 2007 00:58 | 111399 | ||
| Harvey: we're on the same page [388 words] | Dr RJP | Oct 22, 2007 12:31 | 111399 | ||
| "Jerusalem" is mentioned in the Koran....once [170 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 27, 2007 17:33 | 111399 | ||
| Thank you, Jennifer. Everything you said is true, except... [141 words] | Dr RJP | Oct 29, 2007 14:19 | 111399 | ||
| Thank you for the correction [140 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 29, 2007 19:45 | 111399 | ||
| There were NO palestinians in Israel and they're not even "Palestinians" [60 words] | marlene | Mar 14, 2008 04:47 | 111399 | ||
| Pallywood: the Lethal Weapon [798 words] | Noam | Dec 27, 2021 12:07 | 111399 | ||
| A solution [206 words] | Paul M. Neville | Oct 13, 2007 17:44 | 111397 | ||
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| syed [251 words] | shayna | Oct 13, 2007 18:30 | 111296 | ||
| Islamic tolerance? Really? [305 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 14, 2007 10:55 | 111296 | ||
| Can you say Entrepreneur [735 words] | SS | Oct 16, 2007 02:19 | 111296 | ||
| Ayat a sayf and ayat al jzya [49 words] | Harry | Oct 23, 2007 11:59 | 111296 | ||
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| Postpartum Depression [130 words] | Gnarlodious | Oct 12, 2007 11:40 | 111258 | ||
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| Live and let live [111 words] | Syed Kasim | Oct 12, 2007 01:56 | 111214 | ||
| Fight fire with fire: make "Islamic fascist" a household word. [448 words] | Dr RJP | Oct 12, 2007 01:22 | 111209 | ||
| ISRAEL IS A RECOGNIZED SOVEREIGN COUNTRY!!! [415 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 12, 2007 00:22 | 111206 | ||
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| our strenghs and weaknesses [51 words] | Dan, Australia | Oct 11, 2007 23:01 | 111202 | ||
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| Don't be such a downer [73 words] | Deborah Blumenthal | Oct 11, 2007 15:57 | 111163 | ||
| Deborah, dont just talk, do something [43 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Oct 12, 2007 04:43 | 111163 | ||
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| in re Submitted by Irish Savant (United States), Oct 11, 2007 at 15:26 [243 words] | argawarga | Oct 12, 2007 09:35 | 111159 | ||
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| the tragedy of it all [476 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 12, 2007 16:40 | 111133 | ||
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| Zionism's Bleak Future [135 words] | Talia Zentara | Oct 11, 2007 00:52 | 111071 | ||
| IS THIS OUR FATE? [525 words] | Geno M. | Oct 11, 2007 00:31 | 111070 | ||
| 3 | The lights are going out all over europe tonight [1658 words] | Antonia Gilligan | Jan 26, 2008 01:00 | 111070 | |
| If not now, when? [40 words] | Carl Sesar | Oct 11, 2007 00:25 | 111069 | ||
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| ZIONISM BLEAK PRESENT [471 words] | JACQUES HADIDA | Oct 10, 2007 21:00 | 111039 | ||
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| ONLY SOLUTION: GAZA TO EGYPT; PARTS OF WEST BANK LINKED TO JORDAN [164 words] | G. Marcus | Oct 10, 2007 20:28 | 111035 | ||
| Agree with Marcus, but I'm afraid Arabs too smart for that [167 words] | Charles Martel | Oct 12, 2007 12:37 | 111035 | ||
| It's always darkest... [80 words] | LDC | Oct 10, 2007 20:25 | 111034 |
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