69 million page views

Reply to Olie

Reader comment on item: The Organization of the Islamic Conference Gets Feisty
in response to reader comment: Fazal Habib

Submitted by Fazal Habib Curmally (Pakistan), Mar 26, 2008 at 00:47

Dear Olie,

Greetings,

Perhaps there may be some truth or experiences you may have had, in what you say. I am a Muslim and a very proud one.

Historically and in some cases hysterically, Muslims have been defensive about Islam because of what happened after a clear cut timeline that began with the Battle of Lepanto when the European navies defeated the Turkish navy. In the Mediterranean Sea. This permitted colonialism and in most cases, it has been the Muslims who got the stick. This created a distortion because Muslims preferred in most cases to return to religion with a greater fervour instead of facing the fact that we had lost to superior technology.

To this very day, the Muslims may have natural resources aplenty but we cannot exploit them. The case in hand is Iran and its Nuclear power program. The West has made a conscious effort to deny the rest of the world nuclear power despite the NPT. So we are somehow, either all fools or terrorists or somehow incapable of using the technology we have acquired. Perhaps had the West abided with the spirit of the NPT. I am very confident that Iran would not have understood nuclear technology the way it has or the way Pakistan has. The reason for this is having to adapt to this technology has given us a better insight into its workings. We have asked questions and found answers to the questions for ourselves. This is progress and can lead to spin offs and therefore technological progress. The world today works on Information, technology and money.

The Muslims have have some wealth and some technology but we haven't been able to put it together because it is always available in most cases from outside for a cost. But this usage of money has prevented us from progressing tecnologically and we are still on the defensive, but not to the extent we were 100 years ago.

Being on the defensive has not permitted to acquire what may be the best aspects of western culture. Drinking coca-cola or wearing jeans or talking about T.S. Eliot, or Shakespeare, Byron or Shelley or western philosophers is not enough. It is one aspect of culture and not the entire complex that goes to make Western culture. We have not bothered to study the western work ethic. This is why the Muslims have not adjusted to western values per se. We find similar values structures in Islam.

Today, the Muslim society works on the basis that the family is the structure of society and family comes first. In the west these ties have been weakened and there is a tendency to see each member of the family as an economic unit in itself. We believe that the measure of a man is the laws of God, the secular West sees man made laws as the measure of man. This is why there are many things secular society permits but a Muslim society does not.

There are differences but there are similarities also. We Muslims do not necessarily agree quite a few things or westen values. perhaps it could be that the West is arrogant because of its history and sees all Muslims as terrorists whereas Muslims see the west as the biggest terrorist ever because of our colonial and post colonial experiences. Take for example the invasion of Iraq or for that matter the creation of Israel. Most Muslims feel that if the West wanted to salve their conscience over how they treated the Jews, then they should have given them a piece of their territory. However, the Jews are human beings and they have rights and why shouldn't they have their own homeland? And we can go on and on.

But where do we come together? This is in the process of being defined by the Muslims at least. This is why the OIC came to symbolise what the Muslims are about. We won the crusades in Palestine but lost later. Are the Muslims trying to win again or are we trying to find peace for ourselves without the constant bombardment of how terrible we are? Thnk about it.

With Regards.

Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

<< Previous Comment      Next Comment >>

Reader comments (36) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
Western And Non-Muslim Policy-Makers Need To Create An Anti-Sharia Bloc [231 words]GWKMar 26, 2008 08:34123690
GWK- But How? [122 words]YnnatchkahApr 1, 2008 23:06123690
How? Some Thoughts ... [177 words]GWKApr 2, 2008 21:56123690
A natural process? [201 words]GWKApr 3, 2008 20:53123690
You are so right, GWK [147 words]YnnatchkahApr 4, 2008 21:08123690
Not So Fast -- Spine is Needed, But That's Where We Part. [59 words]GWKApr 7, 2008 18:02123690
What a great idea! I can't wait for OIC's first lawsuit against non-Muslims. [74 words]DrRJPMar 23, 2008 16:22123399
Another bumbling "rep"..... [135 words]Abu NuwasMar 23, 2008 14:07123372
No Chruch in Saudia, No Mosque in the West [91 words]OlieMar 23, 2008 07:14123343
The Organization of the Islamic Conference Gets Feisty [371 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 23, 2008 03:07123324
Fazal Habib [107 words]OlieMar 25, 2008 09:08123324
Reply to Olie [695 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 26, 2008 00:47123324
1The OIC Summit, just concluded in Dakar, Senegal [157 words]Dr. Steve CarolMar 22, 2008 19:38123289
'The new leadership moving into moderation'! [69 words]M.D'SouzaMar 22, 2008 17:40123274
What arrogance and immaturity. [161 words]GeorgeOfTheJungleMar 21, 2008 08:34123159
A majority of leaders and clerics of Muslims have done them a great disservice... [249 words]KatteyMar 21, 2008 21:31123159
wrong [63 words]yamMar 17, 2009 14:43123159
Two Points of "Extreme" Moderation. [244 words]YnnatchkahMar 17, 2008 16:34122875
It's now or never [133 words]Rebecca MouldsMar 17, 2008 09:42122856
Lots of American citizens are aware. [219 words]KatteyMar 19, 2008 17:07122856
On legal action [346 words]MeghanMar 17, 2008 03:13122843
about OIC and lazy money [282 words]G.VishvasMar 17, 2008 00:11122833
Economics to save Western Civilization from Islamic Opressors- being destroyed. [460 words]YnnatchkahMar 18, 2008 22:02122833
To be fair: [160 words]KatteyMar 19, 2008 17:28122833
The Brits renegged on their promise to the Jews long before any promise made to any other ME country. [261 words]DrRJPMar 20, 2008 15:01122833
The Brits and the Middle East - early 20th century. [304 words]KatteyMar 21, 2008 01:37122833
About OIC and lazy money. [181 words]fazal Habib CurmallyMar 23, 2008 03:19122833
please read carefully [271 words]G.VishvasMar 24, 2008 05:03122833
Reply to Mr Vishvas. [107 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 25, 2008 02:07122833
replying to Curmally [567 words]G.VishvasMar 25, 2008 22:23122833
My next reply to Mr. Vishvas. [191 words]Fazal Habib CurmllyMar 27, 2008 00:24122833
30th of February has already happened [253 words]G.VishvasMar 27, 2008 21:50122833
Reply to 30th of February has already happened. [178 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 28, 2008 23:11122833
deeper discussion [474 words]G.VishvasMar 29, 2008 22:18122833
Reply to Mr Vishvas 29th March 2008. [137 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 31, 2008 00:24122833
about transcending mental slavery [507 words]G.VishvasMar 31, 2008 21:05122833

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)