Islamism is destructive

Submitted by The Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Sep 13, 2008 at 21:59

Ahmad replies:

".....I don't understand why the West want to westernize the Muslim World by force and then they talk vehemently about the respect of others and their beliefs...."

But I do understand why the Muslim World wants to muslimize the West (by force if they could, by stealth because they cannot by force) while they talk vehemently about the respect of others and their beliefs - all the while maintaining that their religion is the supreme revelation of truth and look down on everyone else.

It's partially a safety in numbers thing. If enough people believe as you believe that will give your beliefs some credibility - no matter how absurd they may actually be. You must have seen stage hypnotists causing otherwise intelligent people to do absurd things - such as having them totally convinced that their left shoe is a puppy for example. They might act out this belief - talking to it and patting it. Ooops! Sorry , bad choice, I forgot the Muslim thing about dogs. OK, let's say it's a kitten then.

Putting aside the definition of God - in a similar way, you and countless others before you have convinced yourself (and other proponents of your 'religion' ) that you have some great insight into the meaning of existence (and the meaning of other people's existences), from reading copious pages about the life of a 7th century arab and chapters and chapters of anecdotes of his exploits and those of the group that were with him. Of course you're not going to look critically at any of this - as that would be anathema to the group to which you've given yourself to.

The combined myth has developed into a political/religious ideology (like no other religion) with strict customs and beliefs. Why would God , the universal ground of being , dictate that some people have to dislike Jews, face Mecca five times a day and believe that a 7th century arabian caravan raider was the last prophet and insist that this phlosopht was spread across the globe? Why would God have Muslim women wear hijabs and/or black burkhas in the boiling sun?

Why would God continue to allow other people to be born and raised in more advanced cultures where this was seen as sheer stupidity and a strange anachronism ? Could it be because Islam is not truly universal and is a poor interpretation of great spiritual truths which are common to all mankind? It suited the arabs more than a thousand years ago and was unfortunately spread by the sword - because it condones violence where it sees it as being necessar y.

And don't imply that some major Islamic organisations are not terrorist organisations - they are by any definition. America, Russia and all other countries affected by militant Islamism agree on this point.

Also you say - "Noone can talk about American atrocities in Japan which were more recent than the Holocaust which is still the talk of the hour."

You mean Hiroshima?

I noticed you didn't mention that Japan attacked Pearl harbour which initiated the US involvment in the Pacific war.

It might help if you learnt something about the atrocities that Japan committed through most of the territories of south east Asia and the Western Pacific - even into New Guinea prior to August 1945. The Japanese were ruthless in their attempts to make the lands they conquered submit to them (much like Islamists in the near East and North Africa hundreds of years ago). Perhaps they were reading the Koran - they even got into beheading those who didn't submit on many occassions.

The Japanese were warned to surrender or face dire consequences in 1945. They refused to heed the warning and America acted. By doing so it forced an immediate surrender and stopped the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of people on both sides who certainly would have been killed by conventional means - had the atomic bomb not been dropped. The decision to drop the bomb was not taken lightly and was targetted on the two cities which were industrial centres producing arms and heavy machinery for the Japanese war machine.

It is unfortunate that it should happen in the first place but it is perfectly reasonable for a person to take whatever steps are necessary to neutralise an enemy who is bent on destroying him. So it is with nations. And while we're at it - if you think it was unreasonable for 'the Americans' to use the atomic bomb - you haven't said anything about Pakistan (one of the countries where people ritoted over the Mo cartoons) which is not at war with another country - developing and having it's own bomb have you? Why does it have one - if not to destroy other people?

And you didn't go into the ethics of a nuclear capable Iran headed by a fanatic who in his own words wants to 'wipe Israel from the map' -.

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