Our dear samer and the word awliya'

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 21, 2008 at 08:19

Our dear Samer who is really a Pakistani who pretends to be an Arab wrote

>This is the first time I hear of Taqqiya and its meaning.

It seems that we infidels know more about islam than you do

>and that Sunni Muslim force Shi'a to Curse Ali and his Family (Ahl Bayt) -

Ahl bayt (sic)? really? You cannot be an Arab as you are clueless about when to use al al-ta3reff

>The reason for my astonishment is that Sunni Muslimsrespect Ali and his family very much, there is no way a Sunni Muslim would curse Ali or his family being part of Mohammad familyAnyone who curse Ali, whether being Sunni or otherwise, it means he indirectly curse the prophet and his household. And this is NOT admissible in Islam.

islamic gobbledygook

>I am not sure what are your sources for such accusation against the Sunni

Could it be because al-Zawahiri quotes this taqiyya doctrine very often?

>Also you have translated wrongly the following verse from the Quran"[Yusuf Ali 3:28] "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.">Yousuf Ali is pakistani, whose native language is NOT Arabic.

And so are you

>And frankly I don't like his translation, there is another Pakistani whose translation is better, although not perfect

Who really cares when your sources are just as poor. Remember your bogus translations of the word adna and bitanaah? You need to stick to urdu. But who is this Pakistani that has such good translation. Let me guess you are making things up as usual

>The word in Arabic Wali, means gaurdian, supporter, Boss. It does not mean Friend.

OK I will be nice to you: where would I find in an Arabic dictionary that the word wali does not mean friend? Let me help you the word wali is very stable Arabic word and it could indeed mean friend and for any one who lives here in the US you can go to Borders or Barnes and Noble book stores and you can check Hans Wehr dictionary and yes it is modern classical Arabic but the word wali is a very stable word and you will find it in Quranic Arabic as well as Middle Arabic and Modern Arabic and yes the word could mean friend and for this check page 1100B and notice that the word wala' means friendship and that the term mu3ahadat al-wal' means the treaty of friendship

You need to stick to urdu our dear samer

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