Ibn Masud: On the contrary, Allah loves to throw people into Hell. It says so in the Koran

Submitted by Plato (India), Mar 5, 2009 at 10:11

Ibn Masud you wrote

>>Allah does not like to throw anyone in the HELL<<

Not true. Allah loves to throw unbelievers (Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists…) into Hell. Read these verses:

004.048 YUSUFALI: Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed.

004.116 YUSUFALI: Allah forgiveth not (The sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, Hath strayed far, far away (from the right).

Christians have the Trinity, Hindus worship a multitude of gods, Buddhists worship no god. Which is why Allah calls them the vilest of animals:Surely the vilest of animals in Allah's sight are those who disbelieve, then they would not believe. (8:55)

Where do you think Allah is going to place these vile animals? In Heaven??

>>(may HE save us all from this ugle place).<<

Why did Allah create this ugly place. The Koran tells you why.

006.123 YUSUFALI: Thus have We placed leaders in every town, its wicked men, to plot (and burrow) therein: but they only plot against their own souls, and they perceive it not.

32:13: If We had so willed, We could certainly have brought every soul its true guidance: but the Word from Me will come true, "I will fill Hell with Jinns and men all together."

Ibn Masud, Allah is the one who has let loose plotters to misguide because He wants to fill Hell with people like me. And why does He do that? The next verse tells you that Allah is the creator of evil. Allah created the evil of hell because He is Himself evil as these verses make clear.

113.1-3 : Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of the dawn, From the evil of what He has created, And from the evil of the utter ly dark night when it comes,

>>He has also sent many prophets like Ibrahim, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed and 4 major books to WARN us against breaking HIS laws.<<

Who gave you this information and what proof was given to support it?

This my understanding of how Muslims come to this conclusion: You go to a neighbourhood madrassa. The mullah in charge tells your religion is the truest one. This story he learned from a book which he was in turn told by the Mullah who taught him that it was written in a book which someone claimed had revealed to him by God via an angel.

>>Anyone who takes His laws as a MOCKERY, then they deserve the punishment that is written in the books- very simple !!<<

Allah Himself mocks His laws by changing them to suit Muhammad's purposes.

066.001 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! Why holdest thou to be forbidden that which Allah has made lawful to thee? Thou seekest to please thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

033.050 YUSUFALI: O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee; and daughters of thy paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of thy maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makka) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her;- this only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); ….

002.217 makes fighting during the prohibited months legal.

>>If you commit Murder or Treason in US, your punishment is Death !! (Is it unjustified?)<<

That is because when you murder you have killed a real person and with treason you kill or endanger the lives of many.

One makes a mockery of Allah' laws because He is unable to enforce these laws on the large majority of mankind despite 1400 years of trying. So whatever is written in this book seems worthless.

>>Why is it easy for you to understand the constitution and man made laws of a country called USA, but hard to understand the Laws of your Creator (ALLAH) who gives you everything ?<<

Man made laws are written down after consultation and deliberation by many people to be acceptable and to be just to the large majority who will live under those laws.

The laws given by Allah came from the mouth of a single individual who made claims to be in communication with Him via an intermediary. We know that this could not have been the case (the charitable view is that maybe he dreamed or was under the illusion that Gabriel was talking to him) because of the simple fact that many of these laws were for the convenience of this single individual, Muhammad.

Muhammad wanted to live off other people's wealth so he made looting of caravans and taking booty from victims of his raids an Allah given right.

002.217 YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you ……..

008.001 YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning (things taken as) spoils of war. Say: "(such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger: So fear Allah, and keep straight the relations between yourselves: Obey Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe."

008.069 YUSUFALI: But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good: but fear Allah: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

Regards

Plato

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