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Submitted by trans-parere (Canada), Feb 1, 2012 at 03:30

Both the US and NATO countries stood by while Turkey annexed, raped and murdered the Christian Cypriots. I say stood by because the best NATO countries did was secure the demarcation of the Trurk's claim and ensure they had free reign to kill, corrupt, and destroy with in "their territory" that held a population made up of ~ 80% Greek Cypriots. Both US and NATO made that trade off for access to Turkey's bases during the dying days of the Cold War.

Today, Turkey is engaged with the worst elements in the middle-east and the US and NATO countries can only mutter idle threats and make it difficult for Turkey to enter the EU. If that. Since an increasingly bankrupt EU is looking hard at getting past any perception of "difficulty" with Turkey entering the EU.

Turkey is working to create it's own EU style economic union among middle-east Arab countries. All ex-Ottoman Empire holdings. This Turkish economic expansion includes material and financial support to Hezbollah and HAMAS. This is part of Mr Davutoglu's neo-Ottomanist world view, and desire of increasing Turkish influence from central Europe to the Persian Gulf.

While the EU has it's hands full working with the Balkan State's to develop some socio-economic stability for the region. Turkey is making their own end run on the Balkans seeking an independent economic model between the Balkans and Turkey.

"People in Britain may think this government is moderate and liberal, but they are not," said Ayse Ozek Karasu, the editor of Haberturk newspaper. "There are cities here now where it is hard to buy alcohol, and where women feel pressurised to wear the headscarf. I feel that they have a secret agenda, which is not to be in the EU, but to be leaders of the Islamic world." Haberturk Newspaper is located at Ciner Media Center in Taksim, Istanbul.

Was Perry right? No. "The West" never had won over Turkey and Turkey has always been an unreliable partner. Long before the rise of the AKP and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to power. Whether that is referenced through Turkey's treatment of the Cypriots or the Kurdish people. Turkey continues it's brutal treatment towards those they owe a debt to. It's going on ninety years since the Armenian genocide and the Turkish can not bring themselves to acknowledge that crime. Bringing Turkey truly into the fold of democratic "Western" States has always been a case of wishful thinking on our part.

I believe the Turkish mind nourishes the embers of empire lost.

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Reader comments (29) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
No need to kick Turkey out of NATO [27 words]spectreJan 3, 2015 02:08220076
Idiz is right: We can't kick out the Turks. Just watch out for them. [292 words]Michael SDec 22, 2014 17:51219907
2TURKEY's FUTURE [84 words]R.T. ErdoganDec 25, 2014 11:01219907
The Turkish enigma [387 words]Michael SDec 29, 2014 06:01219907
Enigma- Turkey is Only Part of the Puzzle [142 words]M. ToveyJan 6, 2015 17:27219907
lumps of coal [226 words]Michael SJan 7, 2015 21:21219907
2The only way to get Turkey out, is to put Russia in [198 words]jgetsJul 17, 2012 12:59197275
Israel [156 words]havasJul 13, 2012 12:58197219
2NATO and Turkey [75 words]nancyFeb 6, 2012 04:49193128
18You people know very little about Turkey [38 words]sephardiFeb 4, 2012 16:43193060
3Friendship and Islamokemalist Barbarism [55 words]Young MCFeb 5, 2012 07:24193060
14You people know very little about Turkey 2 [188 words]sephardiFeb 5, 2012 20:59193060
2Genocidal Boasting [65 words]Young MCFeb 7, 2012 12:42193060
14 LIKES?? [58 words]ayatollahowmanyJan 12, 2015 09:56193060
5Who needs friends if you're looking to rebuild an empire [420 words]trans-parereFeb 1, 2012 03:30192946
1Turkey and Friends [71 words]stanley BFeb 1, 2012 19:33192946
1stanley [436 words]trans-parereFeb 1, 2012 22:27192946
1400 years in super-dog years [183 words]stanley bFeb 2, 2012 18:45192946
2An unfortunate truth [263 words]trans-parereFeb 2, 2012 22:10192946
2Who shall make this happen? [170 words]stanley bFeb 3, 2012 17:21192946
Erdogan [26 words]SafaFeb 4, 2012 07:46192946
1Freedom Requires Effort. Slavery Simply Asks One to Submit. [478 words]trans-parereFeb 5, 2012 00:22192946
2Islamic power? [47 words]trans-parereFeb 5, 2012 00:42192946
1Turkey may yet have its fate with destiny [90 words]PeterFeb 13, 2012 05:24192946
3New Ottoman empire [336 words]AlexandrosJul 16, 2012 10:59192946
turkey out of nato and perry out of presidential race [15 words]havasJan 31, 2012 02:57192918
Whether Perry was correct or not, he did not look good [95 words]saraJan 20, 2012 16:37192712
Fleeing Eurabia [10 words]JamesJan 19, 2012 19:32192701
3In Spite of Perry's Poor Poll Showing-He Wasn't Wrong About Turkey's Turn From The West [202 words]M. ToveyJan 19, 2012 17:14192696

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