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let us investigate the truth from unbiased perspectiveReader comment on item: Trouble in Londonistan Submitted by TRUTH ALONE PREVAILS (India), May 6, 2012 at 08:42 First of all, Dear Azmat Zuberi, I am afraid that your logic is beyond my understanding. How can you use blame game to prove that you are gr8? So what if muslims killed 100 million, others killed more. Are you serious? Is this a way to defend anything by any logic? How can counting the mistakes by others will prove that you are great? Which gr8ness do you claim to recognize by proving others as false? Look at Buddhism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism etc. They never advocate killing the infidel by any chance. OK - Now, I look at your comment to analyze them
OK. That's right BUT the problem is with perception. You surrender in front of GOD and preach peace - justified. But, it should NOT involve forcing others to surrender in front of your GOD. Are you getting me? Whichever nation was ruled by Muslims, whether it be Persia (Iran), Mesopotamia (Iraq), Sumeria (Egypt), Africa, Arab (Arabia), Malaysia, Indonesia, Aryavart (Indian subcontinent) etc. - They made people forcefully accept Islam. How will you justify that?
I dont think muslims are at peace with each other. How will you define Shia - Sunni wars? Afghanistan and Pakistan (countries with 97% muslim population) tops the world's list of honour killings and rapes. How will you explain that? Somewhere you quoted ( source http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/53560 ) about Hadhrat Mirza Ghulaam Ahmed calling him Avatar of Hindu prophet Krishna. I respect him BUT do Muslims respect him? Just search it on google - PERSECUTION OF AHMEDIYYA QADIYANI and see yourself. The only solution to Islamic problem is Hadhrat Mirza Ghulaam Ahmed (AS). We need some true reformer like him BUT his adherents are on the muslim hit list. What solution do you propose?
The verse is good. In short it says that you must kill those who want to kill you. It forbids killing those who do not want to kill us. But, how will you justify muslim rulers bombing stupas of Buddha using Dynamite? 5 months back, there was a news that Egyptian Imaams plan to destroy pyramids of Egypt. What will you say on that? Please dont say that pyramids were at wars with muslims. Similarly, in Rome, Muslims are planning to destroy Churches. I need NOT count how many temples you destroyed in IND. That cannot be counted. Same has been validated by Prof. Will Durant, Koenraad Elst and Stephen Knapp. Islam is only religion which honours destruction of religious buildings of non adherents.
This is Sura 5 Aayaat 32. NOT 33. This is actual translation by mohamed marmaduke pickthall.
It clearly states that murder should NOT be for manslaughter OR corruption on this planet. Further Quran 5:33 mandates killing of corrupter of land. There are stories in Hadiths where a man insulted prophet. He was called corruption on Earth. So, Muslims can kill any NON Muslim and they will just prove that the dead NON Muslim insulted prophet. No punishment can be issued to them. Sahih Bukhari Vol.9 No.50 says that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for killing a Kafir (disbeliever). The only form of terrorism recognized by Islam is killing a muslim.
This is NOT how Crusades happened. Who told you that only Muslims were killed in that war? More Christians were dead than muslims. While Crusades was horrible and so was Stalin. Islam was NOT any lesser horrible. 270 million lost their lives to Islam. Even Adolf Hitler, the so called evil Nazi leader converted to Islam from Christianity (source: http://islam-watch.org/SujitDas/Heil-Hitler-Heil-Muhammad.htm ) Further we need to forget the past and look at the present.
This is the benefit of reform. People correct their mistakes and go ahead. Is Islam reformed by any chance? I don't think so. Persian champion Ayatullah Rohullah Khomeini used to spit on them who said - ISLAM IS AGAINST WAGING WAR. Muslims still love fighting in the name of Allah.
Yes. Killing of innocent is prohibited. That is NOT the problem. The problem is with definition of innocent. See Quran 4:93 (Translated by Mohamed Marmaduke Pickthall)
Only innocent person recognized by Quran is a muslim. Islam does NOT consider NON Muslim as innocent. UK scholar Sheikh Anjem Chaudhary used to say - WHEN WE THINK INNOCENT, WE DONOT COUNT NON MUSLIMS AS THEY HAVE SINNED AGAINST ALLAH. ONLY INNOCENT PERSON ON THIS PLANET IS A MUSLIM. See, I have nothing against Islam. No theory is 100% good. Some bad is there everywhere. While all other religions try to correct what's wrong in them, Islam tries to hide its evil nature. It never tries to correct any mistake. That's why only islam / muslims are under question. 59 of 60 Most Wanted terrorists of America are muslims All 30 Most Wanted terrorists of IND are muslims 24 of 25 Most Wanted terrorists of UK are muslims 12 of 15 Most Wanted terrorists of Israel are muslims Look at world designated terrorist organization. 90% of them are Islamic. (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations ) WHY ?? Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". Reader comments (683) on this item
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