For Azmat Zuberi (Rabina Yu3azim Alihu) and the rule of the Arabs in their own civilization was marginal at best!

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 16, 2006 at 07:58

My dear Azamat I'm not an Arab but I study Arabic and the religion of Islam in general and the history of early Islam in particular and how did Islam come about? As in getting to know our civilization's enemy.

I'm a proud _nijis_ Western kafir. The more I get to know about Abul Qasim's (aka Muhammad) religion the more I realize that the Arab venture and Islam were nothing but colonialism not any different from the crusades. But wait: there is no teaching in Christianity that would urge Christians to wage such war. The crusades were conducted despite Christianity and not because of Christian teaching.

The Arab invasion of Iran and the destruction of the Persian Empire and the brutalization of your people was done by the Arabs who had the audacity to justify it in the name of their God Allah. The same God that wanted a 1/5 share of the spoils (ghanima) with Muhammad from your poor ancestors! I feel so bad for your ancestors that got stuck with Islam at the expense of the much sophisticated religion of Zoroastrianism. Islamic theology and you must pardon me is retarded in comparison with the very sophisticated theology of Zoroastrianism.

Then you wrote: "your objection of me not knowing Arabic language is still deceitful."

No I do not have any difficulty with your knowledge of Arabic but I will not let you get away with any linguistic nonsense that is clearly tendentious as in your little venture about silim/sallaim and salam and Islam.

Then you wrote: "Sibawayhe himself was a non-Arab who among the many non Arabs who stood out in Arabic linguistcs"

You are very correct that he was the father of the Arabic grammar and his genius F3L. But why are you surprised that he was not an Arab?

Then you wrote: "Arabs may be proud of their vocalization over an ajami (non Arab)"

Stop here for a minute the way I see this is more evidence for Arabian imperialism. And by the way the word 3Ajami could also mean: foreigner! this means that the invading Arabs were regarding Iranians as foreigners in their own land. So much for Arabian imperialism.

Then you wrote: "It was the non-Arabs like Sibawayhe who excelled Arabs"

You are very correct. Ali dashti in his book "23 Years" believes that the Iranian and the Mesopotamian 3Ulama were responsible for 70% of writing al-3Ulum al-Islamiya! May be the ultimate revenge by the Iranians against the Arabs is that they shaped Islam in the way they wanted it to be.

Can you imagine Islam today without the likes of Tabari (and his work on tafseer, tarikh, sira etc...) or Sibawayhe or Bukhari? And to add insult to injury in the case of the Sira: Ibn Ishaq was the grandson of a Christian and Ibn Hisham was born and lived all his life in Egypt. And the great Suyuti was an Egyptian. I'm sure that you are also aware about the rule of the Nestorian (Christian) doctors in Baghdad at Dar al-Hikma in expanding the vocabulary of the arabic language (eg: tuhal, safra, shabakiya etc.. these words were invented by Hunein based on Sibawayhe's F3L and these words would have had no meaning to Abul Qasim aka Muhammad or his generation but they are perfect Arabic words now) There is also debate among the students of the arabic language about the rule of Hunein Ibn Ishaq in the introduction of the short vowles (fatha, damma, kasra) to the defective Quranic Rasm.

So what was the rule of the arabs in their own civilization? It was marginal at best. The Arabs did what they did best and that is: invade, loot, destroy civilizations, rape, and call your ancesetors names like: 3Ajami and collect ghanima and jizya and have the audacity to claim that such atrocities were done in the name of their Allah.

Then you wrote: "the Arabs like you."

No I'm not an Arab I'm a proud nijis and western kafir!

Then you wrote: "Lughatul Arabi"

You and I need to talk about vocalization v. transliteration. This should be: "Lughat al-3Arab" Or you can say: "al-Lugha al-3Arabia."

Then you wrote: "i may be white but i do a bit of english"

I'm color blind. The Arabs? They sure are racists. And your command of English is good.

Then you wrote: "i am not use to transliterating Arabic into Roman English so please forgive me."

We will be talking about this in part two.

One final note: The revenge of the Iranians against Arabian imperialism were:

1,. The great Shahnamah (sp?)

2. The Iranains shaped islam in the way they wanted it to be and there is no going back

3. Iranians still celebrate Nawruz (sp?) and use natija shamsiya with a compromise that it starts from 622 CE, because thay know that Abul Qasim's natija qamariya was a defective and retrarded natija.

Stay tuned for part two.

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