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For Sohail And Jesus in the Qur'anReader comment on item: Trouble in Londonistan Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 13, 2006 at 18:54 My dear Soahil rabina yu3alimuk akthar wa akthar ... Now, I'm sure you agree with me that your Allah or is it Abul Qasim AKA Muhammad tells us that the Bible is corrupted. If so what makes you believe any biblical material including your little comment about the hawwariyoon and being there or not during the crucifiction? And what is your answer ya ayuha al-faylasoof al-kabeer?. So repeat after me: Never quote a "corrupted" book! Because how do you know that may be the part about hawwariyoon al-massih or talamithat al-Massih (oh I forgot that you know no classical Arabic and also you know no Christian Arabic) the disciples of the Christ did witness the crucifiction or not. Now, I have no interest in what the Bible says here in the least. What I'm after is what Abul Qasim told us about Jesus so here is your lesson for today and you have to be ready because we will get into Arabic a language that you do not know and we have to look into the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas and read the original Coptic and see what we come up with. 1. The Quran tells us in Q19/16-34) that indeed Jesus was born to the virgin Mary. So far so good. A bit too long and a bit boring and poorly edited. 2. Then as usual in the disjointed Qur'an we skip back to Q2:253 where your Allah gives Jesus the "clear proof" or al-bayanat whatever that is (this is a clear grammatical error: the rasm is alif lam neh yeh nuun teh, and then you can see the hands of the 3Ulama editing the word of your Allah and his poor Arabic by adding a shadda or double consonant and also added another alif. So much for the unchanged and un-edited Qur'an) then your Allah also states that he "Faddallna ba3duhum 3an ba3d" so much for the equality of human beings. Then your Allah says that al-Roh al-Quodos supported Jesus (this is funny because the brazen 3Ulama tell us that al-Roh al-Quodos is Gabriel, but there is nothing in the verse that tells us what is really al-Roh al-Quodos. The fact that we do not have a defintion of what is really that al-Roh al-Quodos that this very well could be the same al-roh al-quodos of the Trinity and remember the old saying: "al-tafseer lel sahaba wa al-wa'well lel 3ulama" So I very much can say that al-roh al-quodos could be the al-roh al-quodos of the Trinity. Did you get it or is this beyond your education? So much for the poor Muslim theology. 3. Then in Q3;49 and this must be the most amazing thing about Jesus in the Qur'an in the fact that your Allah states that Jesus also was fashioning birds out of clay and then he breathed life into them. Do you know what this means? It means that Jesus _created_ these brids. And you must agree with me my dear Sohail that only God _creates_: therefore Jesus must be God. But that is not all: If we trun to the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas we find the same story: Jesus fashions brids out of clay and then he breathes life into the brirds (you can find the original Coptic text and the translation provided by Harold Bloom in "The Gospel of Thomas" Harper Collins publishers) This means that your Allah or is it Muahmmad was plagairizing the literature of the great civilizations of the late antique world! So much for the word of your Allah. 4. Then your Allah tells us the story of the crucifiction in Q4:157-158 and this is what it says: And because I know that you do not know any Arabic I will give you the gist of what al-ayatian are saying and if you disagree with what I'm syaing I will be more than glad to provide you with a linear translation, so here we go: A. Your Allah says that _they_ (whoever they are) killed Jesus. B. Then Allah says: No they did not kill him or crucified him. C. But there was his like. D. And they (whoever they are) for sure did not kill him. In other words your Allah descirbes himself as: makkar or deceiver and in this case he was a makkar! E. "Bal rafa3ahu Allah" or his was lifted by Allah. Notice that there is no Qul here and this must be the word of Muhammad and his opinion. So much for the word of Allah. the clear conclusions here are the following: 1. Jesus did not die on the cross. 2. Jesus was lifted up by Allah therefore he did not die, and only a God does not die 3. Jesus was breathing life into clay birds and only God can do such a thing. So based on this it seems that Abul Qasim and his Allah believed that Jesus indeed was a God! As for the Trinity: Allah did not even get it he claimed that it is God, Jesus and Mary. So much for the Muslim theology. PS: Stop reading Mr. Naik's nonsense (did you find out what the Arabic word Naik means?) 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