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Damned if we do, damned if we don't.
Reader comment on item: Stay out of the Syrian Morass
Submitted by Nazim (Egypt), Jun 13, 2012 at 17:48
And yet again you are excluding Turkey from the West and trying to position it as an enemy. Hardly an innuendo. It is West that is urging Turkey to take action, not vice versa. If we did not take any action, you would be blaming us for being in cahoots with Iranian regime. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Clever.
Syria is a humanitarian disaster, and a concern of everyone. Who would you want to control Syria, us or Saudis:? Well, for you it does not matter...
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Daniel Pipes replies:
Yes, I have excluded Turkey from the West for nearly a decade now. Any government dominated by Islamists by definition is not Western.
I would be fine if Ankara, like Amman - and as I argue Washington should do - stayed away from the conflict in Syria. I would not blame it for that.
You are right, a choice between Turkish and Saudi control of Syria does not matter much to me. Both are foul and unacceptable.
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| Sunni vs Shia ear for the ages [147 words] | Stas | Feb 28, 2014 00:31 | 213474 | ||
| American "interests" [359 words] | AEB | Aug 16, 2012 14:09 | 197967 | ||
| 1 | view from Tehran [35 words] | myth | Jun 28, 2012 11:07 | 196791 | |
| 3 | Sunni-base Jihadism at least as bad [51 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Dave | Jun 28, 2012 07:03 | 196783 | |
 Clarification on my posting [14 words] | Dave | Jun 28, 2012 17:42 | 196783 | ||
| to intervene or not? when and why? [67 words] | peter Legur | Jun 19, 2012 05:59 | 196452 | ||
| 1 | Syria [50 words] | Lujack Skylark | Jun 18, 2012 23:49 | 196444 | |
| 1 | May the good inherit the world. [117 words] | Jay1 | Jun 18, 2012 12:40 | 196427 | |
| 2 | Missing Element [94 words] | Bureautopian Observer | Jun 17, 2012 17:04 | 196415 | |
| 2 | US intervention in foreign atrocities [129 words] | steveN | Jun 16, 2012 20:00 | 196402 | |
| Iran's influence in the region [79 words] | stanley b | Jun 16, 2012 20:00 | 196401 | ||
| 3 | Syrian blood bath - Syrians killing Syrians [153 words] | NuritG | Jun 15, 2012 00:18 | 196367 | |
| The Missing Element [75 words] | Barry Black | Jun 14, 2012 22:34 | 196363 | ||
| Syria or another Rwanda [177 words] | Farhad Lahafdoozi | Jun 14, 2012 22:18 | 196362 | ||
| Exactly the opposite. [397 words] | Sophia | Jun 14, 2012 16:06 | 196353 | ||
| 1 | Agreed [47 words] | Alan Rocker | Jun 14, 2012 09:49 | 196342 | |
| 3 |  Damned if we do, damned if we don't. [89 words]w/response from Daniel Pipes | Nazim | Jun 13, 2012 17:48 | 196320 | |
| Well [89 words] | Nazim | Jun 14, 2012 17:59 | 196320 | ||
| 4 | The aid flotilla is on its way? [130 words] | Jeff | Jun 17, 2012 23:11 | 196320 | |
| I have to agree with the Russians [173 words] | Alexandros | Jun 18, 2012 13:11 | 196320 | ||
| Russian Style Democracy in Syria? [218 words] | M. Tovey | Jun 19, 2012 11:58 | 196320 | ||
| 1 | You did n't actually reply anything though [452 words] | Alexandros | Jun 20, 2012 10:36 | 196320 | |
| Democracy is Rule of Law Accepted by and Not Forced Upon the Governed [725 words] | M. Tovey | Jun 21, 2012 14:37 | 196320 | ||
| Now we are talking [982 words] | Alexandros | Jun 22, 2012 04:34 | 196320 | ||
| Excellent commentary on Syrian debacle [61 words] | Robert Janicki | Jun 13, 2012 15:29 | 196317 | ||
| 1 | western public opinion and support [164 words] | myth | Jun 14, 2012 06:48 | 196317 | |
| Excellent point, Myth- Wars are waged on TV [195 words] | sara | Jun 15, 2012 14:53 | 196317 | ||
| Adam Curtis' idea of the larger picture of Western intervention and media coverage [53 words] | myth | Jun 17, 2012 00:55 | 196317 | ||
| 2 | Inspiring Revolutionary Forces in Iran [60 words] | John C. Drew, Ph.D. | Jun 13, 2012 14:58 | 196316 | |
| 2 | The Change of Power [147 words] | Arlinda DeAngelis | Jun 13, 2012 11:34 | 196310 | |
| 4 | Stay out of the Syrian Morass [118 words] | Balarabe Abba | Jun 13, 2012 11:30 | 196308 | |
| 5 | So well stated, you highlight the duplicity of the west [102 words] | sara | Jun 13, 2012 17:04 | 196308 | |
| This is not convincing, but it is insulting [32 words] | Debbie | Jun 14, 2012 11:52 | 196308 | ||
| 5 | No, not insulting, just trying to make people understand [329 words] | sara | Jun 15, 2012 15:24 | 196308 | |
| 4 | too bad --if anyone is insulted [110 words] | Michael Hanni Morcos | Jun 16, 2012 16:30 | 196308 | |
| 3 | Thank you for an edifying, focused analysis of this complex situation [67 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Albert Edelson | Jun 13, 2012 10:35 | 196307 | |
| 3 | You are right, protecting our interests means not having a dog in this fight [117 words] | mhloutsidebeltway | Jun 13, 2012 09:01 | 196305 | |
| Rebel Guilt for Atrocities [56 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Aymenn Jawad Al-Tamimi | Jun 13, 2012 07:38 | 196300 | ||
| 3 | Pursuing reality [82 words] | John B | Jun 13, 2012 07:28 | 196299 | |
| At last [13 words] | Zenonas Tziarras | Jun 13, 2012 07:19 | 196297 | ||
| 1 | Conditions in Syria [90 words] | Stas | Jun 13, 2012 03:49 | 196290 | |
| 1 | Exactly right [186 words] | stanley b | Jun 12, 2012 22:36 | 196281 | |
| Syrian casualties are unacceptable [69 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | stranchan | Jun 12, 2012 04:24 | 196250 | ||
| 4 | Syrian casualties vs US interests [172 words] | Yosef | Jun 14, 2012 15:23 | 196250 | |
| 1 | You're right, Yosef [50 words] | Kepha Hor | Jun 30, 2012 01:27 | 196250 |
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