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The Qur'an also says that the OT and NT cannot be corrupted!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 9, 2014 at 08:21

Our dear Abdul whose command of very basic Arabic is big time zero wrote this gem

I am not a Muslim if I don't believe in the divinity of the Bible and the Torah.

You see our dear Abdul I only tell wannabe Arabs like you what your islamic sources tell us and let you decide so the here is the disaster of the day as it is very clear that Allah says that the OT and NT have not been corrupted

1. The author of the Qur'an says انزل التوراة والانجيل or He (Allah that is) revealed the Torah (read this as the OT) and the Injil (read this as the NT) then congratulations our dear Abdul but Allah claims to be the author of both the OT and NT as well as the Zubur (read this as the Psalms)

2. It says in the Qur'an لا تبديل لكلمات الله or no changing (read this as corruption) of the words of Allah it also says in the Qur'an لا مبدل لكلمته or no one can substitute (read this as corrupt) his words so logic would dictate ياايها العبقري الكبير that because the OT and NT are Allah's words that they could not have been corrupted do you get? And do you see why Islam is ridiculous?

Oh there is more

3. Your Allah says الذين يتبعون الرسول النبي الامي الذي يجدونه مكتوبا عندهم في التوراة والانجيل or Those that follow the messenger the prophet (read this as Muhammad) they (Jews and Christians) will find his name in the Torah and the Injil (read this as the OT and NT) and because Allah has logic how can he use texts and in this case the OT and NT to prove a point unless these texts are not corrupted and you know by now that garbage in is garbage out which means if you quote a corrupted text to prove a point then you proved nothing

You see logic would dictate that if the NT and OT are indeed corrupted then the Jews and Christians would have deleted any even remote mention of Muhammad in their book but it seems that Ibn Ishaq as you shall see below knew otherwise

4. Oh there is more and this time from al-Ahadith and there is a famous hadith where Muhammad went to visit بيت المدراش or a Jewish Midrash and he inspected a copy of the OT and he kissed it and declared it to be the true words of his Allah! So you tell us why would he kiss a corrupted text ياايها العبقري الكبير?

5. al-Tabari as well as Ibn Kathir as well as al-Qurtubi tell us that the NT is composed of the four gospels متى و لوقا ومرقس ويوحنا and these are the same Gospels that you will find in the NT! Corruption? and where is the corruption? and who really corrupted them? we are not told because how could one corrupt the words of their Allah?

6. Oh more? this time from Ibn Ishaq where he tells us that Muhammad is منحمنا في اللغة السريانية or Munahemana in the Syriac language and that one can find it in the Syriac Bible (read this as the Peshitta) so how can Ibn Ishaq quote a corrupted source to prove a point? Let me help you he cannot which means that the Peshitta as per Ibn Ishaq is not a corrupted text

But here is the disaster the word Munahemana is a Syriac word from Nahem or he who rises from the dead and as far as we know Muhammad did not rise from the dead then it must be the Christ! Now do you get it?

7. Oh there is more Ibn Ishaq tells us that Muhammad is really البرقليتوس (which is nonsense) but nontheless he is quoting the NT so how can he quote a corrupted book to prove a point? He cannot now do you get it?

But I am asked to be cautious about them,

So who is asking you? Let me guess no one right? and cautious about what? you have a brain right? and you can think for yourself right? But again the disaster of Islam is you are told not to question anything as in Surat al-Ma'ida 101 I urge to think for yourself and be a free man from the stupidity called Islam

Use your brain is this asking for much or do you find yourself happy being told to only use your right hand for eating and left hand for cleaning your rear end! Did you ever think what would a man who loses an arm do? Starve himself if he lost his right arm and stop cleaning his rear end if he lost his left arm? Islam is ridiculous

I urge you to leave Islam and be free and start thinking for yourself

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