The Portal and Eden

Submitted by MIchael S (United States), Jan 21, 2016 at 18:38

Hi, Moh

You mentioned Göbekli Tepe. That is a Pre-pottery Neolithic site from perhaps 9000 to 7450 BC. Since the Biblical Adam and Eve date to around 4000 BC, this was not the "Garden of Eden". There were many similar sites from around the same time as Göbekli Tepe, some of the more notable ones being near Jericho, Israel and Amman, Jordan.

Many of these sites show evidence of teraphim and other ritual practices; and even earlier sites in southern Africa, dating back to 40,000 BC, are cult centers centered upon images of serpents. None of this is connected with Adam and Eve, other than the fact that humans were involved.

Adam was not the first physical human. The scriptures did not say that God "created" Adam, as he did the universe. He "formed" him, as a potter forms a pot from clay -- starting with a lump, then working a rough shape, then finishing it on a wheel. In the case of life forms such as Adam, this "forming" process is what we usually refer to as "evolution". One thing we know for sure about Adam, is that he had yDNA similar to Y-chromosomal haplogroup J1c3 (also called J-P58); because Aaron, not many generations after Adam, is presumed to have had this DNA. It is said to have originated in "2000-22,000" BC, giving us quite a range to work with; but corresponding well with the Biblical date for Adam.

What you are talking about with these physical excavations, is merely fleshly human history, devoid of any knowledge of God. Adam uniquely had this knowledge, which God "puffed" into him with His spirit -- this according to Genesis, not any imaginations of my own. The Garden of Eden, then, had some sort of physical existence -- possibly in Eastern Turkey (quite a bit north of Göbekli Tepe), near the sources of the Tigris and Euphrates; but the exact geography is hard to decipher and seems to include also the source of the Nile. According to the scriptures, Adam and Eve were driven out of the place, and it was later devastated by the great flood.

When talking about the "portal", I am referring to the fact that Adam acutally lived in two places simultaneously: In his physical being, he lived in "Eden", wherever that was; but in his spirit, he was in a place similar or identical to the place described by John in Revelation. Concerning the "chruvim" or "cherubim",

"In art, lamassu were depicted as hybrids, either winged bulls or lions with the head of a human male. The motif of a winged animal with a human head is common to the Near East, first recorded in Ebla around 3000 BCE. The first distinct lamassu motif appeared in Assyria during the reign of Tiglath-Pileser[disambiguation needed]as a symbol of power."

-- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamassu

You can see that this motif post-dated Adam. It did not, apparently, arise out of pre-Adamic religious iconography and artwork. It seems to have come out of the minds of men who had been touched by Adam's spiritual experience -- as indeed, the Assyrians are said in the Bible to have been descended from the Noahic descendant Asshur; and the Assyrians of today have a high concentration of the J1 yDNA haplogroup.

I suppose you might be curious about people of other stocks -- including NW Europeans who largely have the R1b haplogroup, and even the Arabs who predominantly have J2 (not J1) -- and, for that matter, the majority of Jews, who also have these and other haplogroups. All of these obviously have paternal lineages that do not go back to Adam. Adam must therefore be taken as our allegorical "father": It is not his DNA that we have inherited, but the tradition of his spiritual encounter in the "portal".

Many peoples have been heirs to this tradition, to the extent that the whole world has now heard Torah, to some extent or another. The Assyrians, alluded to above, were one such people. They are heirs of Adam, but not heirs of Abraham. Abraham heard the tradition, passed on by his father Terah; but whereas Terah and his other relatives worshpped teraphim and other idols, Abraham internalized the relationship Adam had had at first with God, a relationship that can come only, the Bible tells us, through faith. Descendants of Abraham, such as Ezekiel and John, have then passed on an understanding of the spiritual "garden" -- but not second-hand; because they believed Torah and the gospel, they witnessed those things first-hand.

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