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Teaching our dear Renox: Very Brief Introduction to the Arabic/Islamic Civilization.

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 14, 2021 at 07:40

Our dear Renox, who is busy doing his little Da'wa or is it Tabligh, wrote this gem:

>No one can question the great intellectual achievements realized under the aegis of Islam during its "days of glory" (750-1200 AD+-)

Our dear Renox is not aware that the Islamic Historical Tradition tells us that based on the Islamic doctrine of الجاهلية (oh darn it the Arabic! But you can consult Sheikh google or did you already forget?) Islam was a new start and the older civilizations (their languages, religions and cultures) should be wiped from existence in favor of Islamization and Arabization. Do you get it so far our dear Renox?

And this is from an old post of mine: The great German historian C Becker and in his very celebrated conclusion: "Without Alexander the Great (read this as: Greek civilization) there would have been no Islamic civilization" He was able to debunk the claim by the Islamic historical tradition about al-Jahiliyya and that Islam was a new start and the past is not valid anymore or that Islam brought with it historical discontinuity after all, as in the case of Egypt, 4000 Arab nomads were able to invade Egypt and defeat the mighty Greeks (Byzantines) and the end result was the Arabization and Islamization of Egypt

So who really created the Islamic/Arabic civilization?

1. Ali Dashti tells us that 70% of the books of Islam (Tafsir, Tarikh etc...) were written not by the Arabs but by the smart Persians. Without Persians there would be no al-Tabari, al-Zamakhshari, al-Bukhari. More? Without Sibawayhe the Arabic language would not have been the same.

2. So who translated the books of the Greek learning? These books were translated from Greek to Syriac and then to Arabic not in Mecca or Medina but in Dar al-Hikma in Baghdad of the Persian Abbasids by Nestorian Christians and in the process many words were "invented" and added to the vocabulary of the Arabic language. Example: The word Balgham or Sputum. And your so called Prophet, our dear Renox would have had no clue what is Balgham

3. It was the brilliant Persian minds that read these literary treasures and as would be expected and expanded the knowledge of the subject matter.

4. Then it was the Catalan speaking Jews, who also spoke Arabic, in Spain that translated these literary treasures from Arabic to Catalan and then it was Monks in Spain that translated the Catalan translations to Latin and Europe was able to have access to their Greek heritage. Oh did I mention that the Arab historians tell us that Omar was quoted as saying that the invading Arabs can burn the books in the libraries in Alexandria and Ctesiphon and later on in Nalanda India.

5. Take the case of "Algebra." Every Tablighee and his cousin tell us that the "Arab" al-Khawarizmi is the one who really "invented" Algebra. However, if they take the time to do a google search you will discover that the great Greek mathematician Diophantus several hundred years before al-Khawarizmi wrote so much about Algebra and he is really the father of Algebra. Oh al-Khawarizmi? He was not an Arab. He was Persian

6. Another example? The Indian Zero and numbers were plagiarized and now attributed to not Persians but to the Arabs! So much for the truth

This would be enough for now. However, I'm curious why did the Muslims invade India? And why did they brutalize your Hindu ancestors?

Last, What is with the "Ye" in your translation of the "Hadith"? Was your Allah Shakespeare?

PS: Next?: The damage inflicted on the cultures and languages of the older civilization that were invaded by the Arabs and the vile detaching of cultures and civilizations from their past and reinventing history out of total ignorance by Muslim historians.

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