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Submitted by Taimur Beg (United States), Jan 9, 2006 at 22:28

The problem with this French guy, IMHO, is his baseless fear. Because a quack harms his patient in some way does not mean that it's the fault of Science. Understand? Otherwise, millions of Muslims - even very religious Muslims - living in the States for example would have done the same thing - shut themselves instead of becoming doctors, nurses, engineers etc. You will *always* find a small minority doing something absurd - are you going to look into their minds and do a root cause analysis and fear ramifications of every thing they believe in?

The scheme is absurd because you have to take individual temperament and stupidity into account. Some things are explicity disallowed in Islam - yet Muslims do them. Are you going to point towards Islam once again? That was my point regarding the teenager analogy.

No one is saying that there is nothing wrong with Muslims. Yes, there is. They need to change. But when you say " Isn't there a potential threat to western society ?" given Muslims are seculding themseves, I laugh. For that stretch to work, one would have to believe in what you are saying. My apologies - but you will have to give a solid argument before anyone starts believing in the "profound meaning". Fortunately, most educated people and balanced people will actually continue to ignore what you are probably trying to get across (one of the complaints of the learned author, remember?).

In my posts, I have pointed out only flaws in logic by illustrating how the arguments are flawed. I have refrained from shifting the blame. When I spoke of Hindu influences, I didn't say that there is something wrong with Hinduism - but that the influence of Hinduism on some people makes them do something un-Islamic (NOT something immoral or evil or bad) - hence if you catch these people doing an activity (not necessarily Hinduistic or Islamic), are you going to talk about Islam too? The focus should be on the foolishess of these people, rather than on Hinduism or Islam etc. If you think that Muslims as a group are a problem, I'm afraid that's the same logic Hitler was employing.

I brought up Hindu influence to give an analogy, and I'm afraid you thought that I was blaming other religions or ideologies or glorying their religion -- I wasn't, if you read carefully and without prejudice or fear. Sans courage and intellect, even an earthworm would appear as a snake. No one is saying, 'let us not be cautious' - but only that at the very least, don't create further misunderstandings between the two civilizations.
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Title Commenter Date Thread
Does it make sense? [84 words]HAAug 19, 2007 12:47106521
1Unbelievable [137 words]Ishan AlmaziAug 11, 2007 18:57105931
1Protection for women [149 words]OswaldAug 18, 2007 10:17105931
Human values ?? [52 words]tom nortonJan 9, 2006 14:2731350
Be courteous to your Creator [83 words]HishamApr 11, 2006 13:0431350
To prove the case, throw in the whole thing [69 words]Taimur BegJan 9, 2006 07:3731328
Stop Pointing others !! [122 words]FrazJan 9, 2006 15:4231328
Read carefully first, then comment [123 words]Taimur BegJan 9, 2006 16:1631328
Reply to Taimur Beg [111 words]Tom NortonJan 9, 2006 16:5031328
You are missing the point Taimur [123 words]John GiannascaJan 9, 2006 17:1331328
you didn't understand !! [455 words]FrazJan 9, 2006 19:5631328
Re: Taimur Beg's misconception [131 words]KafirJan 9, 2006 20:5531328
U got it all wrong Mr.Taimur [186 words]Aumprakash reddyJan 9, 2006 21:4231328
1An example of the problem before us [439 words]Taimur BegJan 9, 2006 22:2831328
bad logic as usual [130 words]TaimurJan 10, 2006 10:1531328
as usual blame others for your problems...typical [239 words]Aumprakash reddyJan 10, 2006 17:0331328
To: reddy [207 words]TaimurJan 11, 2006 11:2031328
to taimur---dont justify unjustifible [179 words]aumprakash reddyJan 11, 2006 17:5731328
Clarification [310 words]TaimurJan 12, 2006 02:0531328
Taimur Bug grow up now !! [231 words]tomJan 12, 2006 14:3231328
u dont get it do you [320 words]Aumprakash ReddyJan 12, 2006 18:1831328
A small minority doing something absurd you say,Mr. Beg? [492 words]Little HammerJan 6, 2008 14:1131328
why not sending him back to Arabia? [210 words]bruno, ITJan 9, 2006 03:1731316

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