For "dhimmi no more" , the madrassa man.

Submitted by Fahad (Pakistan), Oct 14, 2006 at 21:33

You wrote:

"This claim betrays your total ignorance of the genuis of the grammar of the Arabic language and other semitic languages (Hebrew and Syriac). And it is all in the root system where if you have a word you can very much guess the root of the word and the various stems of the root. It also proves to me that you know no Arabic and in the case that you indeed know Arabic, your command of grammar is poor."

Try using your mind, if you have one, instead of relying on mullahs. Or change your madrassa.

"Take the word al-mujaahiduna in Q4:95. It means: (the) those who fight jihad or holy war ..."

JHD means "strive". The root word for "holy" is QDS, and "war" is HRB, which are not found in the verse.

"(see Ibn Manzur's Lisan al-3Aarb and do not give us your lame excuse that the word jihad is not in the Qur'an... "

The word "jihad" is very much in the Quran. Quote me where I said that it isn't.

"...as the Qur'an is not a garmmar book or a dictionary) ....Jahada is the verbal noun and this case the word Jihad would mean holy war. et viola."

The use of words in the Quran is very clear. We are debating Quran. You don't need the grammar books that your madrassa provides you, to understand that .

Lets use simple logic:

If A=C and B=D , then A is not same as B.

So if QTL=fight and JHD=strive and HRB=war, then QTL, JHD and HRB cannot mean the same thing. Do you understand that ? I don't expect you to. Read it a number of times and maybe you ....... still won't understand.

"As for you bogus assertion that there is no such a thing as jihad and a call for violence against apostates and unbelievers this is nothing short of ignorance because:

1. The last revealed sura in the Qur'an or so we are told is surat al-tauba.

2. Based on the doctrine of al-nasikh wa al-mansukh any dispensation in surat al-tauba will abrogate a previous and earlier dispensation in the same subject matter

What can I tell you? the ... Muslim theology.

3. This means that the "no compulsion in religion" was abrogated by ayat al-sayf or Q9:5. So much for your allah changing his mind.

4. Now the new dispensations are:

A. In the case of the pagans/polythiests: kill them (see ayat al-sayf).

B. In the case of Ahl al-Kitab whoever they are your Allah's final revelation is: "Fight (holy war that is) those that do not believe in Allah and then the usual blah.....blah....blah including the mafia tax aka jizya.

C. But that is not all if you believe Ibn Qatada (see also Ibn Taymiyya), he states that in Q9:30 your Allah declares that _both_ Jews and Christians must be polytheists (we have the funny claim that Ezra or 3Uzair in the son of Allah and the Tirnity) so congratulations my dear fahad your Allah is asking you to go out and fight and kill the unbelievers and all for no reason at all . And then you claim that the Qur'an is not a violent book? Shame on you."

Shame on you for following on mullah beliefs. ...

"How many times do I have to say that? Your claims and assertions are bogus."

It only shows your frustration.

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