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Islamic Reformation?
Reader comment on item: A Democratic Islam?
Submitted by Paul (United States), Apr 17, 2008 at 14:47
Mr Pipes,
I find the analogy with Christianity very interesting, especially as a Historic Protestant. I have also heard other interesting comments, especially that Islam has never had a Reformation like Christianity has. This allows for the Christian principle of the freedom of conscience is areas that are not specifically addressed in the Bible or Creeds. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Paul
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Daniel Pipes replies:
Yes, I agree that Islam needs to undergo something analogous to the Reformation. But because Islam is a religion of works, not faith, and because the Protestant Reformation has already taken place, its evolution will more likely be along the lines of the Haskalah than of the Reformation.
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| Taming Islam [237 words] | Thiagan | Apr 28, 2008 00:20 | 126254 | ||
| Countering Islam: Most effective means [177 words] | Straight_Talk_Luigi | May 1, 2008 04:53 | 126254 | ||
| 4 | Our dear mansoor and who is really the biggest supporter of abortion and your guess is? and other sordid matters [190 words] | dhimmi no more | May 10, 2008 17:27 | 126254 | |
| Disappointing [673 words] | Ron Thompson | Apr 19, 2008 17:40 | 126195 | ||
| A note on "Democratic Islam" [96 words] | Mike | Apr 19, 2008 12:49 | 126184 | ||
| The question isn't democracy but freedom - and yes, mohammedanism IS a problem about that [266 words] | Joe Blough | Apr 18, 2008 19:53 | 126126 | ||
| Wasn't Muhammed Taha executed for sedition? [81 words] | Monty | Apr 18, 2008 14:44 | 126107 | ||
| 1 | "and what happened to Al-Ustaz ("revered teacher") Mahmud Muhammad Taha? [131 words] | Lactantius Jr | May 1, 2008 07:49 | 126107 | |
| Mahmoud Taha [20 words] | trans-parere | May 2, 2008 22:35 | 126107 | ||
| Almost There [46 words] | Blackspeare | Apr 18, 2008 12:41 | 126100 | ||
| Democracy and Koran are antithesis of each other [30 words] | Romesh Chander | Apr 18, 2008 12:22 | 126098 | ||
| 8 | Surah of the day: Understanding the Surahs -- Parallels to Biblical Psalms? [162 words] | GWK | Apr 18, 2008 12:02 | 126094 | |
| Is this possible? [320 words] | Abu Ramli | Apr 18, 2008 11:47 | 126093 | ||
| Response to Abu Ramli [20 words] | Another American | Apr 20, 2008 00:57 | 126093 | ||
| Adapt or disappear: Qur'an [70 words] | steven L | Apr 17, 2008 19:58 | 126035 | ||
| re Islam's Historical situation and its situation today.... [398 words] | Jascha Kessler | Apr 17, 2008 19:48 | 126034 | ||
| The importance of definitions [356 words] | Ralph C Whaley MD | Apr 17, 2008 19:25 | 126030 | ||
| "The importance of definitions, a response" [526 words] | Lactantius Jr. | May 2, 2008 09:07 | 126030 | ||
| Marcus' laws of electoral democracy in Moslem-majority countries [109 words] | G. Marcus | Apr 17, 2008 19:10 | 126027 | ||
| 4 | WHAT MAKES ISLAM DIFFERENT THAN OTHER RELIGIONS [207 words] | G. Marcus | Apr 17, 2008 18:32 | 126023 | |
| what makes Islam different [334 words] | Imam Ahmed Syeed Ali Muhammed | May 16, 2008 14:24 | 126023 | ||
| 1 | The Mullah Ahmed and the word Jihad and the word Ijtihad [283 words] | dhimmi no more | May 22, 2008 06:45 | 126023 | |
| The reality [28 words] | Ahmed Saleh | Aug 18, 2012 00:04 | 126023 | ||
| True democracy [220 words] | Rebecca Moulds | Apr 17, 2008 17:38 | 126014 | ||
| Democracy & Islam 2 [327 words] | Ian | Apr 18, 2008 04:31 | 126014 | ||
| 1 | Islam and democracy [119 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 19, 2008 18:31 | 126014 | |
| What about "Islam within a democracy"? [88 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 24, 2008 04:23 | 126014 | ||
| Good OpEd -- [705 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | GWK | Apr 17, 2008 17:34 | 126012 | ||
| Dr P -- A couple of Q's for you on Erdogan and Turkey, Please [187 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | GWK | Apr 23, 2008 22:39 | 126012 | ||
| Better Forum? [361 words] | GWK | May 3, 2008 22:17 | 126012 | ||
| transformation of religion to second (private) fiddle. [260 words] | reeves | Apr 17, 2008 17:34 | 126011 | ||
| it's in the texts [53 words] | leo solomon | Apr 18, 2008 03:53 | 126011 | ||
| Freedom of Choice in a Democracy, or Choose to Serve Islam: One Cannot Have Both [494 words] | M. Tovey | Apr 17, 2008 15:52 | 126001 | ||
| In 6 centuries, maybe, but not in the foreseeable future [192 words] | Jared | Apr 17, 2008 15:17 | 125998 | ||
| Islam Is a Trojan Horse [105 words] | Amil Imani | Apr 17, 2008 14:48 | 125995 | ||
| Response to Amil Imani [9 words] | Another American | Apr 20, 2008 01:06 | 125995 | ||
 Islamic Reformation? [66 words]w/response from Daniel Pipes | Paul | Apr 17, 2008 14:47 | 125994 | ||
| Response to Paul and Daniel Pipes [15 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Another American | Apr 20, 2008 01:12 | 125994 | ||
| Haskalah [57 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 29, 2008 00:45 | 125994 | ||
| Democracy or Demolocracy [644 words] | Mansoor | Apr 17, 2008 14:26 | 125993 | ||
| 1 | Our dear mansoor says that the caliphate was a "smooth system"! Really? [452 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 18, 2008 08:03 | 125993 | |
| They were martyrs. [192 words] | Mansoor | Apr 19, 2008 22:33 | 125993 | ||
| Caliphs in Islam -- Reply to Mansoor [291 words] | Romesh Chander | Apr 20, 2008 01:42 | 125993 | ||
| 1 | Our dear mansoor and the absurd [500 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 20, 2008 07:47 | 125993 | |
| Turn your face... [159 words] | Mansoor | Apr 22, 2008 09:30 | 125993 | ||
| 1 | Our dear Mansoor and his praise of Arabian imperialism [82 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 22, 2008 21:37 | 125993 | |
| 2 | Dream on our dear Mansoor [430 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 23, 2008 13:32 | 125993 | |
| 1 | caliphate means what? [233 words] | G.Vishvas | May 10, 2008 10:40 | 125993 | |
| Fundamental Issue [48 words] | Mark G | Apr 17, 2008 14:20 | 125992 | ||
| Democracy, Islam, and the way out, if there is one.... [329 words] | Denis MacEoin | Apr 17, 2008 14:12 | 125989 | ||
| ethnocentric [131 words] | jim | Apr 17, 2008 13:18 | 125986 | ||
| ‘Islamic-Democracy' is oxymoronic [195 words] | Oliver | Apr 17, 2008 12:53 | 125985 | ||
| Are Muslims doomed to follow the same path? [96 words] | Solomon2 | Apr 17, 2008 12:50 | 125984 | ||
| Islam and Democracy [179 words] | OldBlue64 | Apr 17, 2008 12:03 | 125980 | ||
| Heartening Disheartening History [209 words] | David Sabghir | Apr 17, 2008 12:00 | 125979 | ||
| Defining "Islamic Democracy" [139 words] | Mike Ramirez | Apr 17, 2008 12:00 | 125978 | ||
| anxious times for Turkey [448 words] | trans-parere | Apr 17, 2008 11:45 | 125977 | ||
| Muslims receive no benefits from the government [70 words] | Lars Nielsen | Apr 17, 2008 10:41 | 125973 | ||
| You're killing me [216 words] | K.H. Ahmed | Apr 17, 2008 10:04 | 125969 | ||
| not necessarily [199 words] | mz ravin black | Apr 17, 2008 23:20 | 125969 | ||
| Democracy and Islam are inherently incompatible [307 words] | David Campbell | Apr 17, 2008 09:47 | 125967 | ||
| Lybian piracy [66 words] | Marie-Claude | Apr 17, 2008 17:08 | 125967 | ||
| Newsweek and the Barbary Pirates - Islam and Democracy revisted [239 words] | David Campbell | Apr 23, 2008 16:33 | 125967 | ||
| Mr Campbell [64 words] | Marie Claude | Apr 23, 2008 18:24 | 125967 | ||
| "Tradition of Piracy"? Sorry, Marie-Claude, that won't cut it [133 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 24, 2008 05:01 | 125967 | ||
| is that a proof ? [24 words] | Marie-Claude | Apr 24, 2008 17:25 | 125967 | ||
| A complex issue [1008 words] | Amitabh Tripathi | Apr 17, 2008 09:42 | 125966 | ||
| You've touched to the core of the issue [347 words] | Bob Jenks | Apr 18, 2008 10:38 | 125966 | ||
| western civilization never allows anything grows parallel to capitalism [260 words] | syed muhammad ali | Apr 17, 2008 09:22 | 125965 | ||
| A Democratic Islam [60 words] | Phillip | Apr 17, 2008 09:21 | 125964 | ||
| A clear and succinct summary of the situation - thank you so much [151 words] | Bob Jenks | Apr 17, 2008 08:57 | 125962 | ||
| I suppose... [26 words] | Doug Corrigan | Apr 17, 2008 08:55 | 125961 | ||
| "the family" [564 words] | German Observer | Apr 17, 2008 08:52 | 125960 | ||
| Islam, the missing links [32 words] | Marie Claude | Apr 17, 2008 07:49 | 125956 | ||
| To Daniel Pipes: Religion of Democracy is not more 'Just' than Religion of Islam [291 words] | Syed Rafey Husain | Apr 17, 2008 06:43 | 125952 | ||
| HUSSAIN YOUR STATEMENTS [575 words] | S.Mirza | Apr 19, 2008 02:38 | 125952 | ||
| Gotta luv Daniel Pipes [59 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 24, 2008 05:38 | 125952 | ||
| Syed Raffey: More about women and slaves in Islam [381 words] | Plato | May 2, 2008 00:10 | 125952 | ||
| Liberal democracy is not a religion, neither is "real" Islam: both are political philosophies [192 words] | Wedhimmissubmitwillingly | Oct 3, 2008 19:43 | 125952 | ||
| To Wedhim: Liberal democracy, if it does not teaches that one day you will die then it is false in its very essence [85 words] | Syed Rafey Husain | Oct 7, 2008 03:22 | 125952 | ||
| Islam doesn't work as a political philosophy [302 words] | Wedhimmissubmitwillingly | Oct 8, 2008 12:52 | 125952 | ||
| Democracy & Islam [212 words] | Ian Campbell | Apr 17, 2008 05:56 | 125948 | ||
| U.S. STATE DEPT GETS IT ALL WRONG ON TURKEY AND ITS EU MEMBERSHIP [757 words] | G. Marcus | Apr 17, 2008 05:46 | 125947 | ||
| No Muslims No Terrorists [297 words] | Alain Jean-Mairet | Apr 17, 2008 05:45 | 125946 | ||
| Alain has it right! [29 words] | Doug Corrigan | Apr 24, 2008 11:05 | 125946 | ||
| wrong [19 words] | marie-Claude | Apr 25, 2008 16:59 | 125946 | ||
| Don't you forget the Care Bears [12 words] | Alain Jean-Mairet | Apr 26, 2008 06:41 | 125946 | ||
| A Democratic Islam? [96 words] | Ilbert Phillips | Apr 17, 2008 05:20 | 125926 | ||
| Democracy and Islam [735 words] | Erich Wieger | Apr 17, 2008 05:07 | 125924 | ||
| close, but a bit off-mark [218 words] | Taj | Apr 17, 2008 04:43 | 125921 | ||
| Taj: Is Allah being just presumptuous in 9:111? [324 words] | Plato | May 2, 2008 00:17 | 125921 | ||
| yesterdays hand was brushed aside [319 words] | trans-parere | May 3, 2008 21:34 | 125921 | ||
| a bit about jails [110 words] | Taj | May 5, 2008 20:31 | 125921 | ||
| all decisions are of great consequence [611 words] | trans-parere | May 6, 2008 18:59 | 125921 | ||
| Allah is never presumptuous [203 words] | Taj | May 16, 2008 14:40 | 125921 | ||
| pattern of behavior [141 words] | Taj | May 17, 2008 04:45 | 125921 | ||
| yes, the individuals patern of behavior not their skin colour. [725 words] | trans-parere | May 17, 2008 21:59 | 125921 | ||
| Taj: Not really? Really? [625 words] | Plato | May 18, 2008 08:38 | 125921 | ||
| Yup, really... Plato [677 words] | Taj | Jun 1, 2008 19:43 | 125921 | ||
| 1 | Taj: The Prophet's last sermon made Muslim women domestic animals/prisoners of men [999 words] | Plato | Jun 18, 2008 04:22 | 125921 | |
| not hardly... [516 words] | Taj | Jun 22, 2008 01:14 | 125921 | ||
| 3 | Taj: An expected response. But why does Allah and his apostle allow women to be beaten? [1293 words] | Plato | Jun 26, 2008 04:51 | 125921 | |
| Point well taken. [14 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 17, 2008 03:21 | 125910 | ||
| Veil for all [309 words] | Thiagan | Apr 28, 2008 08:21 | 125910 | ||
| "Head covering" in the Bible [249 words] | jennifer solis | Apr 28, 2008 17:16 | 125910 | ||
| addendum [35 words] | True Believer | May 5, 2008 07:15 | 125910 | ||
| establishment clause [35 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Apr 17, 2008 02:42 | 125907 | ||
| Silk purse [46 words] | Roger Warner | Apr 20, 2008 07:29 | 125907 | ||
| Silk purse and Vatican [136 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Apr 21, 2008 03:23 | 125907 | ||
| Democracy and Islam [388 words] | Carl Goldberg | Apr 17, 2008 01:58 | 125904 | ||
| lost honour [128 words] | leo solomon | Apr 17, 2008 17:39 | 125904 | ||
| Democratic Islam is impossible ! [37 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Apr 19, 2008 01:26 | 125904 | ||
| Islamic democracy [87 words] | joe | May 18, 2008 07:28 | 125904 |
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