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Our dear Samer and more delusions and this time Ibrahim's little trip to Bakka oh I mean MeccaReader comment on item: A Democratic Islam? Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 25, 2008 at 19:17 Our dear samer al-tablighee wrote >Abraham was 86 when Ishmael was born - Wow Abraham was a real stud > Ishmael was 13 when circumcised - Abraham was 100 when Isaac was born - so basically Ishmael was 14 years old when Isaac was born - Well may be the answer here is the same as what 3Ai'sha said about the fact that no one had a clue about the age of Muhammad when he died and they were saying that he was 50 something or 60 or 63 or 65 and only Allahu a3lam and then she was quoted as saying: "hadha 3amal al-kuttab 'ikhta'uu fi al-kitab" amd no I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you. What do you think ya ayuha al-tablighee al-kabeer? > Isaac was weaned (normally after two years) Does it say that in the corrupted (sic) Bible? If not then you really have no further case. >so Ishmael was 16 years old - Abraham put the bottle of water and the child on Hagar shoulder - then she cast the child - then she lift the child in her hand Islamic Pakistani gobbledygook >Was Ishmael a child then ? and was she able to carry a 16 years old man on her shoulder Would you agree that Allah can do anything? Right? then with his help or biidhin Allah (oh you do not know any arabic but like I said before I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you and shame on you for plagiarzing Mr Naik's or Mr sexual intercourse himself nonsense) Hagar can lift even a 16 year old man! Right? Then you really have no case here either >Forged history - don't you say ? Are you able to spot the mistake Are you for real? What forged history? Let me tell you: you are ignorant. History writing is about what the writer believed happened and it is not about what really happened! You have no clue about what I'm talking about do you? You are poorly educated and shame on you for writing this drivel >The sacrified was Ishmael the eldest son of Abraham So where does it say in the Qur'an a book that you cannot even read in Arabic (and do you remember that you claimed that the Qur'an says al-adna when it really says adna. Shame on you) that "the sacrified" (sic) was Isma3eel? Let me help you: you will not find it in the Qur'an as a matter of the fact the subject of the sacrifice was not regarded as Isma3eel until almost the 4th century of islam. How come you did not know that? >and he was over 16 years old when it happend and when Isaac was merely a 2 years old baby. So what really happened our dear samer ? >According to the Quran And let me add: a book that you cannot read in Arabic. Remember adna v. your bogus al-adna? >Abraham did not leave hagar go alone, he went with her to Mecca and left her there with Ishmael on God's commands (Not on Sarah's commands), but when Ishmael was a baby then and Isaac was not born yet. OK I have a few questions for you 1. Then how did the Ibrahim's (sic) clan get to Bakkah (sorry I have a cold) I mean Mecca? 2. Did Ibrahim (sic) book the trip on the internet? And did gabriel help him with the booking?But wait both of them did not speak or read any English. So who did the booking? 3. Did Ibrahim (sic) and his clan fly via al-buraq as Muhammad did for his little trip to Jerusalem? 4. And did Ibrahim (sic) and his clan fly first class or business class? 5. And what is the name of the hotel where they stayed in Mecca? 6. Did the hotel have a bar as it was OK to drink wine in Bakkah (oh darn it I have a cold) I mean Mecca?and did Ibrahim (sic) have a glass of wine while in Bakkah (darn it the cold) Mecca that is?And did the hotel have a hot tub? 7. And who was keeping an eye on the universe while your Allah was following Ibrahim's little trip to Bakkah (darn it the cold again) ? >It was not Beersheba they went to, it was Mecca. And how do you know that? Let me guess: you have no clue! Right? >And the water was from a well in Mecca called Zamzam until today since that time the spring is still flowing with pure water. Wait oh the zamzam thing again: 1.You will agree that zamzam was the only source of water in Bakkah I mean Mecca? Right? 2. Would you agree with me that your Allah tells you to clean your backside with water? Right? 3. Then I must assume that Abul Qasim aka Muhammad the Arabian warlord and caravan raider and his clan cleaned their backsides by using the zamzam water. Right? 4. So do you still think that the zamzam water is clean water in the time of Abul Qasim? and would you drink such water our dear Samer? I guess you would >This is one mistake, once you reply on this one I will send you another one Where is the mistake? Did I miss anything? Oh yes I did. Your education is poor Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (343) on this item
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