Our dear Khawla and the topic for today is democracy and your name will follow

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), May 28, 2008 at 13:47

Our dear Khawla wrote

>Now, to the topic of democracy. In my previous comments I was arguing about two essential things in life: justice and rights.

OK

>These two principles must go and stay together.

OK

>Democracy according to the West is rights and freedom.

No this is not what democracy is all about and I do not teach political science either

>But, rights and freedom according to democracy are absolute.

You must pardon me our dear Khawla but you are wrong. Nothing is absolute our dear Khawla not even freedom of speech. And here is a lesson in law 101: If you yell in a crowded movie theater: fire, fire and poeple run out and in the process some people fall down and are crushed by other people running out from the theater. Now in a court of law you can say that I'm excercising my freedom of speech because freedom of speech is absolute.

So what do you say to that our dear Khawla if you happen to be the judge? So you see darling your claim that rights and freedoms are absolute is bogus

>It views that people are free to do what they like and what they want without concerning about the outcome and consequences on themselves and on others.

Bogus

>To me, this is negative.

Drivel

>We have to be positive and fair. And Sharia, a broad system, ensures justice as wells as rights:

"The purpose of the shari`a is not to protect Allah or His rights, but to protect the lives, honor and property of all people who live under this shari`a."

Islamic gobbledygook

You still did not answer my questions:

1. Democracy pre-supposes al-3ulmaniya and no I do not translate Arabic for wannabe Arabs and if you can use a ma3jam aw qamoos you can look up the word 3ulmaniya and do you think that I did not notice that you did not address the word al-3ulmaniya?

2. You would agree with me that there is no 3ulmaniya in Islam. Right? this means that there is no democracy in Islam so your claim is bogus

>And Shura, counseling with the knowledgeable, is positive. It is a part of Sharia. Shura is not organized to decide on a negative thing.

Darling: majlis al-shuar is not what democracy is all about. Get over it

>Knowledgeable people and experts are counseled to see if a decision would be made would have good or bad consequences or both. The experts will compare this decision to others and outweigh their consequences. The best decision that will benefit all will be chosen. This is how justice and rights are ensured. The quality of the votes made by ordinary people should be questioned. Pleasing the most of people is not always good if it harms others. We have to please all.

Drivel

>This is justice, is not it?

What justice? Is it justice to treat women and men as un-equals? or is it to treat Muslims and non-Muslims as un-equal? Is it justice to have the barbaric shari3a, that is anti-human and anti-reason, as the law of the land? Is it justice to demand the infidles pay a mafia tax called al-jizya? Is it justice when the so called God of the universe asks his followers like you to loot and then he demands that he gets 1/5 of the loot (Q8:41)? Is it justice when your Allah tells you not to befriend ahl al-kitab? Is it justice when your Allah calls his own creation and in this case the Jews: khanazeer wa quruud? So you tell us ya ayuha al-faylasoofa al-kabeera?

Now as for the word khawla yes I did read your reference but you see our dear Khawla we infidles do our home work and we use an invention that seems to be unknown to Mulsims and it is called al-ma3ajim wa al-qawamees that are real books so stay tuned for my response

Now as for our dear Zakir Naik's name you can check "A dictionary of Egyptian Arabic " by Badawi and Hinds page 894 where the word NYK (nuun yeh kaf) is transliterated as Naik and it is a vulgar Arabic word for sexual intercourse and yes would you name your son khawal if you live in Egypt and it is a perfect Arabic word for effeminate or gay (see Hans Wehr dictionary page 265)? and would you call your daughter sharmouta and it is a perfect Arabic word too? And would you like to have a last name in any Arabic speaking country as: Naik? I doubt it very much

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