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S.2111 POSITIVE BEHAVIOR FOR EFFECTIVE SCHOOLS ACT AS INTRODUCED TO THE SENATE 9-27-07 BY OBAMA IS VERY PROBABLY AN AYRES FORMULATED BILL. AYRES WAS WEATHER UNDERGROUND'S EDUCATION SECRETARY. FOUR TO 8 YEARS IS ENOUGH TIME TO PERMANENTLY INDOCTRINATE CH

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Do You Want the Children Brainwashed with Ayres Marxist Ideology? What Practices Are Planned to be Embedded in Students? What are Considered Positive Behaviors? What are Important Social Outcomes Mandated By the Bill, and Enforced by an Army of Psychologists?

Our Press Doesn't Cover It.

Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act S.2111, was introduced in the Senate by Barack Obama on September 27, 2007.

If the Press Covered It, the Public would Demand Clarification of what this bill Intends to Accomplish.

Is this an Ayers formulated Bill? The answer is, undoubtedly, yes.

Is the bill aimed at improving students ability to be Successful Scholastically, or does it aim to Embed, the word used in the Act, Embed them with Ayres-Obama Socio-Political Ideas. Does it intend to Indoctrinate and Brainwash Children Into These Political Ideas?

As opposed to perhaps one or two Phychologists or Social Workers assigned to schools to Help Some Children with their personal problems, as this new law is written, an Army of

School Counselors, Social Workers, Psychologists, and other Qualified Professionals

will be Directly Dealing with All Students and Controlling Teachers and Programs.

The main goal of this bill is

to Achieve Important Social Outcomes.

Whose Idea of Important Social Outcomes do they propose to implement?

Through the Control of these Professionals, does the Act Intend to Make Non-Acceptance of these particular Socio-Political Ideas tantamount to Social-Psychological Dysfunction, and Subject Students and Teachers to

Soviet and Maoist Style Re-Education Denunciation and Ostracism if they Don't Conform?

Had the Bush Administration proposed such a program, what would have been public's rightful reaction?

September 27, 2007, when Obama introduced the

S.2111 Positive Behavior for Effect Schools Act,

it was Long Before Obama's connection to Ayres The Educator was Revealed. Had that connection been made public earlier, it is doubtful he would have introduced this bill at that time, because it Derives from Ayres Educational Ideas.

It is Logical to Conclude that the Ideas in the Program are Ayres. Or Ayres-Klonsky. Klonsky, partner in Ayres Educational Projects, is Another Avowed Communist.

1. By the time Obama met Ayres, Ayres was teaching at University of Illinois and had received an award from University of South Carolina. This bill, introduced in 2007, cites Three Unnamed Schools to Justify the Purpose of this Expansive Educational Legislation. Those schools are Located in Illinois and South Carolina.

2. Obama has Expressed Admiration of Ayres Educational Ideas, and has Backed that Up by Funding them through his position on the Boards of CAC and Woods Fund. This Funding amounted to approximately $160 Million. It's Important to Note that No Scholastic Improvement was Achieved with this enormous amount of funding, because the Money was Spent on programs which were Aimed at Politicizing the Classroom.

3. How did Obama become such an expert at education? Who else was advising him, besides Ayres?

In addition to Ayres, there is also Mike Klonsky, whose stated current mission is to Spread Marxist Ideology in the American Classroom. Obama Funded Klonsky and Ayres Small Schools Workshop to the tune of $2 Million.

Klonsky had maintained a Social Justice blog on the official Obama Campaign Website until it was remarked on by blogger Steve Diamond in June, and, in Stalinist fashion, was Disappeared.

Another Communist in Obama's Orb, Andrew C. McCarthy

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTQzMDIxZjlmMTM5N2ZhNzlmY2IyZDYxMWQ5NjQ2NDM=&w=MA==

Klonsky Snapshot Obama Website

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-throws-maoist-hardliner-and.html

Steve Diamond Re Klonsky

http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/06/how-is-it-under-that-bus-comrade.html

To Repeat, No Scholastic Improvement was Achieved with the enormous amount of CAC funding, $160 Million, because the Money was Spent on programs which were Aimed at Politicizing the Classroom.

Our Press Doesn't Cover It, But A Canadian Website Does

Obama's Revolutionary Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act of 2007

by Marinka Peachmann, Oct 7, 2008

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5402

The question to ask today, however, is whether or not Ayers' Radical Ideologies Play a Role in Obama's Revolutionary 2007 Education Legislation.

Obama's Education Bill, S.2111, significantly Redesigns and Amends the Elementary and Secondary Education Act to allow, in part, for State Local Educational Agencies and Schools to Increase Implementation of

Early Intervention Services, particularly School-Wide Positive Behavior Supports.

If Passed into Law, Funding to implement Obama's Bill will be Extracted, Without Restrictions, from Title I Funds currently budgeted in the President's 2009 budget at

US$14.3 Billion according to the Office of Management and Budget.

Obama's bill Re-Designates Funds to allow State Educational Agencies to

Allocate Funds to Develop and Implement

Coordinated, Early Intervening Services including

School-Wide Positive Behavior Supports for All Students,

Including those who have Not Been Identified as Needing Special Education.

According to Section 3, the term Positive Behavior Support means a

Systematic Approach to

Embed Proven Practices for Early Intervening Services, including a

Range of Systemic and Individualized Strategies to

Reinforce Desired Behaviors and Eliminate Reinforcement for Problem Behaviors, in order to

Achieve Important Social Outcomes.

Before Election-Day, Americans should Ask the serious and legitimate Question of

what precisely Obama's Positive Behavior Legislation Systematically Embeds in their Children.

As of publication, the Obama Campaign Hasn't Responded to Queries for Specifics.

Obama's bill Doesn't Specify Which Proven Practices will be

Embedded in students to

Achieve the Desired Behaviors or

Important Social Outcomes his legislation mandates,

but if one ascribes to Obama's Education Co-Chair at CAC,

Bill Ayers' Interpretation of Positive Behavior there is Reason for Concern.

Ayers Began his Career in Education

during his Weather Underground days where he served as the

Educational Secretary.

end of canadafreepress quote

Do You Want Your Children Brainwashed In Our Schools?

October 14, 2008, Excerpts

http://brendabowers.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/do-you-want-your-children-brainwashed-in-our-schools/

I hope my readers will pay close attention to the following post. It concerns a bill currently in committees in the House and Senate that was introduced by Senator Obama and two other Congressmen from Illinois. This bill is based on the Educational Theories of William Ayers.

This bill literally calls for the Brainwashing of our Children.

Educational Psychology was My Field and I can say Emphatically that These People Can Be Dangerous If Their Minds are Warped. And yet this bill would put

Social Engineers, Social Workers and Psychologists into the schools and with Daily Access to Children to

Teach them Correct Social Behaviors.

Do you Want Your Child Taught Correct Social Behaviors in Our Schools?

Do you Want to Turn your Children Over to Social Engineers and Psychologists

and given the Full Support of the US Federal Government to

Bend and Twist their Beliefs and thus Behaviors into some Pattern that Fit's a Terrorist's Ideas of What is Right and Wrong?

Well, Senator Barrack Obama, a man now running for the Presidency of the United States, Wants This So Much that he actually Introduced Legislation that would Make This The Law of the Land.

What do you think Will Happen To This Bill If He Becomes President?

Getting to Children in Schools is a Favorite Tactic of Communist and Socialists countries.

Get to the Children and You Will Claim the Population.

I am sure you have all seen the news videos of Little Children neatly lined up Singing and Reciting Verses that Glorify their Leaders Ideology. Think China! And then imagine American children in place of the Chinese children.

That is what this bill is all about.

Following links not on brendabowersblog

http://realdebatewisconsin.blogspot.com/2008/10/racine-schools-hand-out-textbook-with.html

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-nazi-you.html

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31513_Iowahawk-_It_Takes_a_Village_of_the_Damned

back to brendabowersblog

Brenda's answer to Kay, who had confused Obama's Educational Program with

prior PBIS - Positive Behavior Interventions & Supports - Programs

Answer to Kay, Oct 16, 2008 at 15:12

This program being used in the schools is a teacher based program. That is, the

lessons suggested for the teacher's use in his/her classroom as he/she sees fit.

This is from what I could tell a good program and I see nothing wrong with it.

My criteria is that it is Teacher Based and that the children are

Not Subjected to the Professional Manipulations of Professional Social Engineers as is the Case with the Obama Bill.

Though I do not visit Ayers blog as I hardly waste time on what I consider fools so I wasn't aware that

He Denounced the PBIS Program.

I can see where this would be his reaction to the PBIS program as it is being used.

Ayers Believes Only Professionals in the field of Psychology should be Implementing His Version of Positive Behavior Instruction.

His Words and the Words Used in the Bill are

Reshape Children's Thinking and Therefore Their Behavior.

This is the Bill Obama Introduced to Congress.

The Exact Words in the Bill are

Amends the Department of Education Organization Act to Establish, within the Department of Education, an

Office of Specialized Instructional Support Services to

Oversee, Implement, and Ensure Adequate Evaluation of,

the provision of Specialized Instructional Support Services in Schools

by School Counselors, Social Workers, Psychologists, and Other Qualified Professionals."

The schools Now using the program you are talking about probably have Some School Counselors and maybe a social worker or two, but This Bill Calls for a Great Deal More.

Read the wording of the bill Kay. Now do you understand my anger? In fact,

down right Horror at What This Man has Introduced Into Congress and just may get away with.

I will Fight this Bill in Every Way I Know How to fight it.

I hope this clears up this misunderstanding.

These people are Using the Right Words to soothe and Mislead.

Ayers is a professor of Education who Uses all the Right Words in Explaining his Theories of Education. But when one Reads the Fine Print and Between the Lines one Readily Understands his View of Education. He is a socialist terrorist now as he was then.

He is Merely using Different Bombs.

S. 2111 would amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to allow State educational agencies, local educational agencies, and schools to increase implementation of early intervention services, particularly school-wide positive behavior supports."

End of brendabowers blog quotation.

Ayres The Educator, whose position in the Weather Underground was Education Secretary, has repeated many times publicly that Although he has Given Up Violence,

His Ideology Remains The Same.

He now works to destroy the U.S. Government and its Ideals From Within.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5402

Declassified FBI reports documenting Ayers and the Weather Underground Organization (WUO) might shed light on

what positive behavior students will learn if Ayers' influence on Obama persists.

Moreover this FBI summary reveals a connection between Ayer's WUO to the Black Liberation movement, a

theology which Obama's former God damn America 20-year pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright adheres to.

Dated August 20, 1976, the FBI summary states:

The goal of the WUO is the Destruction of US Imperialism and the Achievement of a Classless World. World Communism and

Struggles Within the US will be a Vital Part of this Process.
The WUO's movement focused on recruiting students.

The point of the revolutionary youth movement strategy is to move from a predominant student elite base To More Oppressed, Less Privileged Working Class Youth as a way of Deepening and Expanding the Revolutionary Youth Movement.

This is part of the Strategy to Reach the Entire Working Class to engage in Struggle Against Imperialism.

It is both important and possible to Reach Young People Wherever They Are. Not only in the shops, but also

In the Schools

To Recruit Them to Fight.

A good program Mobilizes and Teaches.
We made the choice to become a guerrilla organization

when the Vietnamese were fighting a heroic people's war, defeating

the most technologically advanced military power.

At home, the struggle and insurrection of the Black Liberation Movement heightened our Commitment to fight alongside the

Determined Enemies of the Empire.

This defined our international responsibility and our duty as white revolutionaries

Inside the Oppressor Nation.

We are part of a Wave of Revolution Sparked by the Black Liberation struggle.

Every movement must learn to fight correctly, Sometimes Retreating, Sometimes Advancing.

But fighting the enemy must be its reason for being.

The way America will aid the victory of the people of the world is

by helping to create a Front in Support of Black and Brown Liberation Here, and by

Tearing Up in the Gut of the Monster.

Destroying the Bureaucracy, the Pig Army, showing initially that

The US not only can't hold together an empire but can't even hold together white people.

end of canadafreepress quote.

Keep in mind that Obama and Ayres Do Not Care About People or Improving Anyone's Lives Except Their Own. Obama Did Not Protect the People in his District from the Ravages of Slum Lords. He Accepted Help From the Slumlord for His Campaigns and to obtain His Mansion of a Home.

They are Interested in the Implementation of their Ideology.

It is Not an Ideology Based on Helping Anyone. Whether It Helps Anyone Is Irrelevant To Them. It is an Ideology Based on Hatred And Arousing Hatred of Those Who Achieve More Than Others Due to Merit and Ability.

That's the True Meaning of Fairness.

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obama would fail security clearance [94 words]sufi imdad Ali SoomroNov 1, 2008 06:11141079
NO I Will NOT Read Islam [34 words]r.j.liguoriNov 2, 2008 19:01141079
obama would fail secuirty clearance [168 words]sufi Imdad Ali SoomroNov 4, 2008 00:35141079
You will lose [93 words]sTsNov 4, 2008 04:43141079
sufi imdad ali soomro [203 words]btillyNov 15, 2008 08:46141079
Obama would fail securiy clerance [266 words]sufiimdad ali soomroNov 18, 2008 02:02141079
sufi imdad ali soomro [34 words]btilly`Nov 20, 2008 02:30141079
Does America Face A Jihadist Threat That's Even Bigger Than Terrorism? [4958 words]WeroInNMNov 23, 2008 01:01141079
You should write a book ... [193 words]kmanNov 25, 2008 00:16141079
I served in the Navy for five years and couldn't get a clearance. [191 words]IanOct 26, 2008 18:31141071
Oohhhh, that's good! [17 words]kmanNov 25, 2008 23:47141071
A Reaction of Dismay [250 words]Ron ThompsonOct 26, 2008 17:25141070
Give me a break. [474 words]AnnNov 2, 2008 04:46141070
Give you a break? [674 words]Sofa SogoodNov 3, 2008 23:26141070
Intolerance and Class Warfare Brought To You By Hope and Change Uniter Obama [647 words]Sofa SogoodNov 4, 2008 05:22141070
Very well said! [111 words]kmanNov 10, 2008 23:15141070
Thank you. [41 words]Sofa SogoodNov 20, 2008 23:25141070
what? [80 words]kmanNov 25, 2008 23:57141070
wait there. [123 words]Iza La.Oct 26, 2008 16:12141064
What of Failure?? [47 words]Peter, ScotlandOct 26, 2008 13:20141049
No clearance if relative living in foreign country [47 words]DianaOct 26, 2008 11:53141045
Of course I hate those radical Islamists! [24 words]Liliana CohenOct 26, 2008 07:21141038
There is a silver lining [110 words]michaelOct 26, 2008 07:09141035
More on Khalidi links. It seems LA Times has a video but won't air it. [1 words]SimonaOct 26, 2008 07:08141034
Obama... It's not fair to fool the sheep... [132 words]Steve JockwynOct 26, 2008 04:45141025
Obama couldn't get clearance to guard latrines... [368 words]mekannykOct 26, 2008 03:53141022
Obama-Odinga genocide ties [143 words]JPOct 25, 2008 20:59140998
Much more to this story [47 words]HJOct 27, 2008 00:25140998
Obama's popularity [35 words]Molly POct 25, 2008 19:43140996
Because the truth concerning this man is being suppressed [129 words]Thomas F.Oct 26, 2008 20:30140996
Response to Obama's Popularity [266 words]KristanOct 27, 2008 13:05140996
Obama is just one in a long line of showman presidents (all useless since 1959) [175 words]Healthy scepticOct 29, 2008 05:22140996
BHO NOT BEING A CITIZEN [91 words]sorayaOct 25, 2008 17:55140992
At least honor his confession of faith [83 words]Mark AdamsOct 25, 2008 17:35140990
Obama's lawyers are refusing to provide a vault copy of his birth certificate & the one on Obama's website is obiously false. [283 words]Barbara PaolucciOct 25, 2008 15:19140982
Obama's security clearance [33 words]Al FischerOct 25, 2008 13:26140970
If he is elected . . . [31 words]Music ProducerOct 25, 2008 13:26140969
lol - the hypocrisy of it all [56 words]jennifer solisOct 25, 2008 22:51140969
First Carter, now this [30 words]F. LandspergOct 26, 2008 16:05140969
Senator Obama his criminal "friends" = fail [130 words]Phil GreendOct 25, 2008 13:04140968
Glass Houses [98 words]PAULOct 27, 2008 15:07140968
Terrorist Racist khalid was once shot... [58 words]DanOct 25, 2008 12:19140964
When [9 words]YnnatchkahOct 25, 2008 22:50140964
Stragetic defensive [284 words]joe six-packOct 25, 2008 10:57140961
The whole thing's a mystery [95 words]r.j.liguoriOct 25, 2008 03:45140937
r.j.ligouri: Obama's success has to be a Divine Intervention- nothing less. [32 words]Adolf LugarOct 27, 2008 18:01140937
Definitely Dark Forces At Work [98 words]r.j.liguoriOct 29, 2008 02:39140937
r.j.liguori: You missed my point [103 words]Adolf LugarNov 5, 2008 17:51140937
I Don`t Want Sharia Law [52 words]r.j.liguoriNov 6, 2008 17:12140937
I want Shari'a Law [37 words]sTsNov 13, 2008 08:59140937
Our dear samer the viticm of the imeprialism of the Arabs [253 words]dhimmi no moreNov 16, 2008 14:53140937
True There Is A Vacuum [79 words]r.j.liguoriNov 16, 2008 15:05140937
Slogans not real proof [41 words]sTsNov 19, 2008 01:26140937
But you I know who you are [68 words]sTsNov 19, 2008 09:27140937
Easy To Prove [126 words]r.j.liguoriNov 21, 2008 12:58140937
and speaking of filth [182 words]dhimmi no moreNov 22, 2008 07:14140937
You don't have free will [347 words]sTsNov 22, 2008 11:00140937
Schemes Up Islam [166 words]r.j.liguoriNov 23, 2008 04:30140937
Why Not? [121 words]sTsNov 23, 2008 05:59140937
Islam include all religions' teachings [368 words]sTsNov 24, 2008 06:52140937
Who Said The Bible Was A Corrupt Book? [180 words]r.j.liguoriNov 24, 2008 22:10140937
sTs [185 words]btillyNov 25, 2008 07:35140937
sTs [61 words]btilly`Nov 25, 2008 07:43140937
"sTs", it's "clear". [98 words]kmanNov 26, 2008 00:05140937
"Fact". [467 words]kmanNov 26, 2008 00:28140937
No real Arab would ... [57 words]kmanNov 26, 2008 00:35140937
Potpourri of all "gods" .... [310 words]kmanNov 26, 2008 00:54140937
Wrong concept [307 words]sTsNov 27, 2008 05:12140937
All prophets ordered killing by God's command [232 words]sTsNov 27, 2008 05:43140937
Last time - I am not going to reply [273 words]sTsNov 27, 2008 08:33140937
Christians require the least amount of effort - Jesus bears their sins [266 words]sTsNov 27, 2008 12:10140937
you have Zero idea about Islam [29 words]sTsNov 27, 2008 12:18140937
I challenge you [205 words]sTsNov 27, 2008 12:30140937
I`m Sick Of That Religion [142 words]r.j.liguoriNov 27, 2008 18:08140937
You are being obtuse ... [244 words]kmanNov 28, 2008 20:15140937
Truly, you make it far to easy ... [1301 words]kmanNov 29, 2008 00:18140937
Oh, when will you show me what Islam does, instead of their empty words?? [337 words]kmanNov 29, 2008 01:23140937
And speaking of more filth: Smare says that the Qur'an says that Allah is really he who decieves [442 words]dhimmi no moreNov 29, 2008 08:17140937
Samer [44 words]dhimmi no moreNov 29, 2008 16:02140937
Your level of understanding is zero [18 words]sTsNov 30, 2008 05:15140937
Yahshua vs.Yahweh [84 words]sTsNov 30, 2008 06:08140937
Cubical zone [146 words]sTsNov 30, 2008 06:15140937
It is easier than you think [765 words]sTsNov 30, 2008 10:15140937
Teaching one tablighee at a time [430 words]dhimmi no moreNov 30, 2008 12:12140937
I have seen both names and many others. [673 words]kmanNov 30, 2008 19:24140937
You accuse me of "living in a cubicle" ... [944 words]kmanNov 30, 2008 20:17140937
Facts? I ask for "facts". [22 words]kmanNov 30, 2008 20:20140937
Oh, this is good! [1058 words]kmanNov 30, 2008 21:35140937
"dhimmi", thank you ... [64 words]kmanNov 30, 2008 21:58140937
stubborn mind [83 words]sTsDec 2, 2008 00:29140937
Christianity is too complex ideology, Islam is easy straight forward [45 words]sTsDec 2, 2008 00:40140937
Our dear Samer says that he does not like reading lies! Really? [69 words]dhimmi no moreDec 2, 2008 07:21140937
clear explicit questions are welcome [34 words]sTsDec 2, 2008 11:24140937
How many "explicit questions" do you need? [7 words]kmanDec 4, 2008 00:41140937
as much as you can [7 words]sTsDec 5, 2008 00:28140937
Let's re-name you obtuse. [1471 words]kmanDec 5, 2008 21:25140937
a school boy would be ashamed to ask such silly questions [281 words]sTsDec 15, 2008 09:34140937
So, after almost 2 weeks all you can come up with is, "Huh?", and Crusades? [437 words]kmanDec 16, 2008 22:46140937
don't call, I will not [32 words]sTsDec 18, 2008 00:19140937
All the Obama's Men [1603 words]Amil ImaniOct 25, 2008 03:36140935
Hussein Obama will win [235 words]rosieOct 25, 2008 02:30140932
Unreal... [68 words]MarvinOct 25, 2008 02:30140931
The Rezco-Auchi connection to Obama... [47 words]Susan Williams-PellegriniOct 25, 2008 01:52140928
Graditude [4 words]jennyOct 25, 2008 00:49140925
Why Has He Been Able To Get Away With All This? [172 words]AlexOct 24, 2008 22:04140912
The Power of Fear [230 words]Rebecca MouldsOct 25, 2008 22:29140912
The american public lack any ability. [50 words]WillisOct 24, 2008 21:08140910
Insecurity Clearance [805 words]EOct 24, 2008 20:22140907
- clever [73 words]jennifer solisOct 25, 2008 23:23140907
Obama Couldn't get secuity clearance [90 words]G MillerOct 24, 2008 17:56140897
Deep Trouble [73 words]Thomas FOct 24, 2008 09:36140865
The enemy within [38 words]Rickie SlominskiOct 24, 2008 21:40140865
Yes, Michael Savage is correct [62 words]Thomas F.Oct 25, 2008 21:01140865
Obama's Islamic past [179 words]MauriceOct 24, 2008 05:34140852
Alexis de Tocqueville must be turning in his grave. [49 words]Mladen AndrijasevicOct 24, 2008 04:41140851
No, we (U.S.A.) need a GIANT kick in the a**. The shame is on us. [104 words]jennifer solisOct 26, 2008 00:03140851
Jenn: Even I hate him, but I don't know why I still feel like voting for him. There is something mysterious in his personality. [26 words]Janet HickOct 27, 2008 18:04140851
Maximization of Brain Wash. [103 words]YnnatchkahOct 27, 2008 22:28140851
We are under the influence of EVIL [75 words]EJMOct 28, 2008 14:12140851
if he is elected [39 words]mo.redneckOct 31, 2008 01:56140851
No Security Clearance Required for a Global Leader in a World Without Boundaries [276 words]M. ToveyNov 3, 2008 14:19140851
Obama and the Muslims [201 words]sTsNov 4, 2008 04:59140851
By His Own Words - 'Audacity of Hope' [93 words]M. ToveyNov 4, 2008 18:27140851
I cannot understand ! [158 words]Anne-Marie DelcambreOct 24, 2008 03:59140849
Prayer is our only hope [79 words]Thomas F.Oct 26, 2008 20:52140849
Are you serious? [39 words]SeanOct 23, 2008 22:05140830
Wouldn't get a STANDARD clearance [57 words]keithOct 24, 2008 22:14140830
standard clearance [3 words]you know whoOct 31, 2008 19:46140830
CAIR, Hamas, Nation of Islam, etc. [77 words]DonOct 23, 2008 21:59140828
Barak Hussain Obama's Security Clearance. [78 words]Charlie GriffithOct 23, 2008 21:22140826
No-bama [18 words]SoapScumBuildupOct 23, 2008 20:56140824
How did Obama get the Dem nominee anyway? [100 words]Snowball in CaliforniaOct 25, 2008 06:23140824
blah obama [9 words]Angel (Tenshi!)Oct 25, 2008 19:02140824
Obama would fail security Clearance [396 words]DebbieOct 23, 2008 20:04140821
Islamic Obama Ties [129 words]John R PeacherOct 23, 2008 19:53140819
Obama would fail Security Clearance as well he should!! [375 words]Margaret HoodOct 23, 2008 19:46140818
The Audacity of Truth [468 words]Jack CooperOct 23, 2008 19:10140815
Also Auchi [40 words]infosifterOct 23, 2008 17:45140809
The Emperor's Newest Clothes [227 words]Rebecca MouldsOct 23, 2008 17:34140808
We don't live in a dictatorship; but we have a Democratic majority Congress [100 words]jennifer solisOct 23, 2008 23:36140808
Clarification needed [251 words]Rebecca MouldsOct 24, 2008 19:20140808
Blind admiration [168 words]Sunshine GirlsOct 25, 2008 21:19140808
It is frightening! [88 words]Viviane PaoliniOct 23, 2008 17:31140807
To Viviane [25 words]YnnatchkahOct 24, 2008 12:50140807
Guilt by associatrion is a marvelously flexible instrument. [120 words]Robert S. WeissOct 23, 2008 17:26140806
Security Clearance [28 words]JaladhiOct 23, 2008 17:16140805
Obama Security Clearance [108 words]Douglas TurnerOct 23, 2008 16:24140802
Thanks [5 words]YnnatchkahOct 23, 2008 18:09140802
Sen. Obama Seems To Have Selective Memory. [118 words]WeroInNMOct 23, 2008 22:33140802
Reply to Obama Security Clearance [162 words]Douglas TurnerOct 24, 2008 23:25140802
Not only a Muslim but he's not even eligible to run for the presidency; he wasn't born in the USA [98 words]YidithOct 23, 2008 16:04140800
Trip to Hawaii-a cover-up [246 words]DEBORAH THE JUDGE-(NEW HAMPSHIRE)Oct 24, 2008 12:35140800
Yidith: Shame for your over-statement [32 words]MGOct 24, 2008 17:31140800
AMEN SISTER !! [68 words]CAROL BARRYOct 25, 2008 00:19140800
They don't care [78 words]sOct 26, 2008 16:11140800
obama legality for presidency [54 words]saggioNov 2, 2008 21:53140800
Too far a stretch [282 words]Albert NekimkenOct 23, 2008 16:04140799
What did you expect ? [91 words]dfwhite19438Oct 23, 2008 15:59140797
Excellent point, and that's the price of the SUCCESS of the Bush Presidency [94 words]jennifer solisOct 24, 2008 00:26140797
We need another 9/11 [106 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
jennifer solisOct 23, 2008 14:19140792
Here's the Link You Asked For [11 words]Sofa SogoodOct 29, 2008 08:11140792
You're a gem, Sofa Sogood! [46 words]jennifer solisOct 29, 2008 23:40140792
Politicians and their bedfellows [251 words]think smallOct 23, 2008 14:12140790
Obama comments [636 words]Barry SunshineOct 23, 2008 14:08140788
Would you choose your babysitter this way? You're a really, really nice guy. [197 words]Sofa SogoodNov 2, 2008 05:07140788
Mr. Pipes: Tide is truning in favor of Islam in America [109 words]Jean DusonOct 23, 2008 14:06140787
Most Importantly. [30 words]YnnatchkahOct 23, 2008 13:53140786
Is this the best you can do to advance the discussion? [61 words]Francis Sarguis, EsqOct 23, 2008 13:48140784
Reply to Comment on Security Clearance [136 words]Douglas TurnerOct 23, 2008 18:14140784
Security Clearance [72 words]Sunshine GirlOct 25, 2008 21:03140784
You are a pretender to reality. [179 words]kmanNov 10, 2008 23:06140784
all the facets of Obama that the mainstream media ignores [319 words]larryOct 23, 2008 13:47140783
Was I sleeping? [176 words]AlanOct 25, 2008 02:43140783
Disastrous economy [307 words]Sunshine GirlsOct 25, 2008 21:36140783
Dhimmocrats will provide the security clearance to Obama! [37 words]JaladhiOct 23, 2008 13:38140781
Bin Laden for US presidency [135 words]IanusOct 24, 2008 15:19140781
BO Security Clearance [121 words]wardOct 23, 2008 13:37140780
Obama's security clearance [185 words]Sue JonesOct 23, 2008 23:57140780
Wouldn't it be nice for the Dhimmocrats and MSM to tell the truth to American people!!! [62 words]JaladhiOct 24, 2008 11:01140780
The name Barak [36 words]NashOct 23, 2008 13:07140779
Mr. Pipes: All of Barak's family names are MUSLIMS. We don't need to be persuaded, we already know he is Muslim? [169 words]Joe GreenOct 24, 2008 17:26140779
About the names. [192 words]YnnatchkahOct 25, 2008 02:57140779
Names don't mean squat [89 words]Keith WilliamsNov 2, 2008 01:41140779
A blind spot? [258 words]John W. McGinleyOct 23, 2008 12:59140777
Don't confuse me with the facts [203 words]David GoshenOct 23, 2008 12:46140776
Indeed? [119 words]yuval Brandstetter MDOct 23, 2008 12:38140775
Obama, the 'Mansourian' candidate. [116 words]M.D'SouzaOct 23, 2008 12:28140773
Let's be fair to Obama [183 words]Dennis GravesOct 23, 2008 12:24140770
Policies are not Important but this perpetuated Fraud is tantamount [323 words]Larry Noble StinsonOct 25, 2008 14:54140770
Alleged Obama birthplace fraud [70 words]Dennis GravesOct 26, 2008 19:25140770
Obama Supporters [29 words]AmericanOct 27, 2008 10:21140770
Why wait for history to repeat? [100 words]DavyOct 28, 2008 11:41140770
Kindly provide the source of your information [62 words]Dennis GravesOct 28, 2008 19:42140770
MUSLIMS WORLDWIDE WOULD SEE OBAMA'S CONVERSION TO CHRISTIANITY AS A CASE OF "TAQQIYA" (PIOUS DECEPTION) [685 words]G MarcusOct 23, 2008 12:22140769
LOL, another lie against Senator Obama. President Obama will be our finest President ever [106 words]Keith WilliamsOct 26, 2008 21:46140769
YOUR VOTE? [67 words]THE SHORE HUNTEROct 29, 2008 20:42140769
I am sorry to disappoint you. Senator Obama is right for America. We need him. [61 words]Keith WilliamsNov 2, 2008 01:28140769
How prescient is this? [15 words]The Third LanternFeb 21, 2015 00:54140769
So really [13 words]BillOct 23, 2008 12:10140767
crime and punishment [86 words]yuval Brandstetter MDOct 23, 2008 12:02140764
Yuval-a sage indeed [103 words]DEBORAH THE JUDGE-(NEW HAMPSHIRE)Oct 24, 2008 13:33140764
Mr. Yuval, come on..... [92 words]YnnatchkahOct 25, 2008 03:36140764
Obama and Osama [38 words]Craig in IndianaOct 26, 2008 00:03140764
His presidency will redefine the term 'domestic security'. [45 words]PhillipOct 23, 2008 12:02140763
Freak out [113 words]Robert SolotOct 23, 2008 11:40140761
Obama as Islamist [96 words]John SchwartzOct 23, 2008 11:39140760
Make distinction between Sunni Islam and Nation of Islam [56 words]Debbie PoulalionOct 23, 2008 11:35140759
Obama an Arab? [67 words]P.L.RoseOct 23, 2008 11:29140756
Obama an Arab [82 words]chrisOct 31, 2008 08:52140756
chris (USA),only PHD without a PHD [156 words]InfidelOct 31, 2008 20:19140756
Phd without a phd to Infidel [270 words]u know whoNov 2, 2008 00:10140756
u know who [11 words]btillyNov 3, 2008 22:12140756
hagar fromHam [80 words]u know whoNov 4, 2008 15:40140756
u know who [23 words]btillyNov 5, 2008 19:12140756
sons of Mizraim [162 words]u know whoNov 6, 2008 20:15140756
Mizraim = EGYPT [99 words]saraNov 7, 2008 17:24140756
Egypt [22 words]u know whoNov 8, 2008 00:09140756
Our dear u know who needs to get his money back from his glorious madrassa [69 words]dhimmi no moreNov 9, 2008 16:46140756
Egypt [32 words]u know whoNov 18, 2008 21:26140756
means what? [25 words]LaineyJan 16, 2010 05:46140756
"The Fall of Hosni Mubarak as a Great Lesson in the Establishment of True International Justice" [572 words]JEONG CHUN PHUOCFeb 12, 2011 23:34140756
Hagar was from Ham [173 words]ZadokApr 13, 2014 17:22140756
Main Stream Media (MSM) Doing Great Job of Downplaying Sen. Obama's Real Background. [391 words]WeroInNMOct 22, 2008 09:46140672
Barack Obama is the hope of millions [85 words]Sinqui LabhailOct 26, 2008 13:00140672
Is Sen. Obama ready for the presidency? [1120 words]WeroInNMOct 26, 2008 20:27140672
don't question... [283 words]donvanOct 27, 2008 10:51140672
Sinqui Labhail, Obama hope of millions [36 words]InfidelOct 27, 2008 14:53140672
Except The Unborn [44 words]r.j.liguoriOct 30, 2008 02:28140672
To WeroInNM: Confused! [198 words]AmeliaNov 22, 2008 16:22140672

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