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Discontent in Egypt Emblematic of an Unbelieving World Not Wanting to Seek Jesus for AnswersReader comment on item: Islamist Turkey vs. Secular Iran? Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Jan 31, 2011 at 12:18 It is interesting that your response comes at a time when, as we see the unrest in Egypt permeate the thinking that a new order is required for governing Arab speaking peoples in places adjacent to Israel, we wonder if the next episode in the journey to apocalypse that is the Middle East is upon us. We'll answer that in a moment. Let us first peruse your next suppositions and see what insight they might offer, if any. So the question for you persists, that if the Jewish people living in Muslim countries under 'peaceful' co-existence seem to have, by your estimation, few problems in that environment, then why is it a problem when those who desire to apply for aliyah and emigrate to Israel by Biblical directive? Here is why, because it is a Biblical directive, and few Islamists are willing to allow any more people of the Jewish population to enter into Israel. Then, those that remain in Muslim controlled lands are taxed, we read from certain sources, at a greater level than if they were to convert to Islam. SitRep 1. "Should the 'Palestinian' refugees be asked to come back to the holy land?" First ask the question, since there are still Arab speaking people in Israel who did not leave after the Star of David was raised over the land, why did the ones who left do so in the first place? Further, since the land promised to Abraham and his heirs are already filled with 'Palestinians,' your question might be better asked as to which type of government they would be willing to be placed under. Why, you might ask? Because this leads to your supposition of the rational view, WWJD, which can only be answered by a specific scriptural reference, and that you have not provided. Your version of the Biblical view is incorrect; that the current Jewish perception does not address the circumstances by which the promised is to be fulfilled. Read Zechariah, which provides a better answer than I can provide as to how the question you ask is to be handled. SitRep 2. "What kind of state Israel should become?" You provide a 'Rational view'…. "Israel should become a bi-national state where all the children of Abraham including Jews, Christians and Muslim can live together peacefully without any oppression (sic) all have right to vote and no community would try to dominate the other." Does this mean you would have supported President Bush and his attempt to accomplish that very thing? Seriously, who are you trying to kid here? Those who know the Holy Bible know this is not going to happen. Even the Islamists know that is never going to be allowed to happen, and they will make very sure of it. Again you err in saying the following is a Biblical view…" Israel should only be a "Jewish State" which should be run by "Torah"….(etc.). By which verse(s) in the WORD of Almighty God can you even suggest that is a Biblical view? That which you cast as an invective has no true scriptural basis. I have read and have a saved individual's knowledge of the Torah and believe in its completed fulfillment; and in the fulfillments yet to come. Were Israel to be run by the "Torah," why do they not do it now when they have the best chance to accomplish it, like Islamists would impose shari'a if they could? The answer is that Israel cannot be run by "Torah" since it requires full belief in the LORD to whom it does honor; and Israel is not in that mode at this time. SitRep 3. "What should be the status of Jerusalem?" Your Rational view provokes a question again. Would the Islamic prophet allow non-Muslims to pray at the Kaaqba and if that is true, why are they not allowed to now? The Waqf will not allow Hebrews to pray at al-Aksa; and you think this could happen if Jesus had His way? In this you again seriously err. THIS is what Jesus Christ, speaking to the woman at the well (not fully Jewish by the way), said: 21) Jesus says unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when you shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22) You worship you know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeks such to worship him.24) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship Him in spirit and in truth. 25) The woman says unto him, I know that HaMashiach comes, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things.26) Jesus says unto her, I that speak unto thee am He. In Zechariah chapter 8, we read: Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD. Now after going through all these prospects, before we would even get a chance to look at an answer as to how He would respond, He has already made this His primary objective, obedience to Him in love. For if there is no obedience to Him in love, then, as we see in the world today, only those who listen to Him in His love are going to be obedient and do what He has already asked according to His commandments. So if you are going to see what kind of answer you would be willing to provide, first ask yourself if you are really (I mean really) ready to be obedient to Jesus Christ when He requires your obedience to His commandments? Therein lies the question that should be the real heart of the matter in your heart. Until one can answer that, all else is futility. So that is what we see in Egypt: futility, coming after Tunisia, and in running fashion in all the other places that have Islamic revolution in their hearts in the same way as Iran and Turkey. And all of it comes in concerted timing; that were it not for the prefaces of scriptures that allows true believers in Jesus Christ His understanding in what is about to happen, there would be confusion for all. Only in seeking His answers are we able to discern His truth and have His confidence in the future. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (192) on this item
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