There are Many Books-The Book of Life Being Most Important to the Believer

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Oct 24, 2011 at 14:23

"Are books God's words?"

A lawyer's response: that depends.

Your repetition of the question is a lawyer's response. And your conclusions do not meet the test of the facts. You've missed the point altogether.

Books, in and of themselves, contain words. Putting this in the context of this discussion, are the words contained in certain 'special' writings "God's Words? You dismiss the one part of the Holy Bible while trying to say that others part are from God. It cannot be two ways; and individuals of your similar mindset say that even the Torah is corrupt, without actual textual proof. That is your conundrum; not mine.

The question of an omniscient God being able to control all that He surveys was rhetorical. In asking, the circumstance for this vein of thinking was to show that the physical books in which words are contained are indeed written by human hands. What the material is referring to is another matter.

One cannot except the Quran from scrutiny anymore than one trying to make an exception of the Hebrew Holy Scripture. Except for the inference of the authorship, both were the products of human endeavor of capturing a thought concept. The distinction to be made here is that of under whose influence were the writers.

Your claim (and those of your similar ideology) settles upon the Quran. But it is human logic and not authoritative corroboration by which you conclude your assertion, for both issues.

You are at the mercy of your own logic; worse yet you rely upon similar logic of others before you, that which has come down for centuries. Then there is the final miscalculation; using logic to enter into matter of belief, and not that which requires a different approach to faith. Knowing the words of a book can set the mind on a belief, but it does not necessarily produce faith.

You state, as have many of your colleagues, you KNOW that certain things are of a necessity required to elevate your concept of whose book of virtue is better, yet none have adequately demonstrated how. Instead, what is resorted too is to point out 'inconsistencies' of known HUMAN error to make a point of the impossible: that Almighty God must somehow be incapable to control the intent of HIS WORD to an unbelieving people.

So, for some of the same again:

1. What about Lot and his daughters? The WORD tells of a believing man caught up in compromise by living in a place of sin and not separating himself in time. The wickedness of his daughters who were miserable for having to leave their place of luxury came back to distress him.

2. Jacob and Esau-easy to solve when considering Esau did not have a love for the things of God and Jacob did.

3. Jacob and the men Shechem-self explanatory: based upon the Old Testament context of the story, would you not pursue the honor of your sister?

4. Abraham and his son Isaac, the only son Almighty God would recognize from the relationship of Sarah-self explanatory.

5. The children of Israel killing for two reasons: for cleansing the land of immorality of the Canaanites and others; and in disobedience, killing outside the moral limitations.

6. Children of Israel taking women for pleasure – non-specific – yet being men, sin was their constant companion, thus the need, like all men who lust, the need for their Savior.

7. Almighty God says He rested – I'll take Him at His WORD over anyone else's.

8. Sarah erred; Hagar paid for it. Both still need to obey the WORD of the LORD.

9. Pre-pubescent, pubescent, or adult; that was not the issue presented: that Isaac was the son to be presented before the LORD is the point.

10. He, Yeshua HaMashiach, IS GOD. If one does not get that one right, then all else fails. Read Isaiah 9:6.

11. In order to fulfill His promise to provide a Savior that is unblemished to accomplish a perfect mission to mankind, it is a perfect means to demonstrate that He, the LORD can do anything, even a virgin birth. Not very logical in the human realm of things isn't it.

So, in trying to list them all, you are correct, you do not have enough time.

And further, if you think the 'church' you refer to is the authority of the WORD of the LORD, I suspect you are referring to the organization that has been trying to redefine its standing in the WORD in compromise to the world so as to be 'ecumenical;' but they can no longer claim authority to discern the WORD of the LORD which, by even your assertions, they have defiled.

A true follower of Yeshua HaMashiach does not follow the logic of men to build their faith upon, like so many who claim to have their own prophetical connection without the proof of it. The correct connection to the LORD is neither by human reasoning nor by mistaken understanding of words in a book, but by the power of the Holy Spirit. HIS WORD is inviolate and He sees to it that those to whom His WORD is given they are given His understanding of them: and that is what He has done for me in writing my name in the Book of Life, by giving me my salvation in Jesus Christ, My LORD.

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