The concrete facts stand as they are

Submitted by slayhy (Canada), Jan 6, 2012 at 21:54

Ishmael was promised a great nation - that is Islam - it is the second largest religion in the world and surpass Judaism by large considering that the majority of prophets are Israelites, however the final message God gave to Muhammad. it is a great privilage giving to Ishmael and his lineage.

Hagar is very much in Gen 16:03 ....... and gave her to her husband as his wife. the wife of Abraham.

Therefore the Torah admits that Hagar is the legitimate wife of Abraham with the concent of God, because Abraham would not do anything without the concent of God. but I must say there are a lot of lies in the Torah - at some point it says that Abraham and gave it (the bottle of water) to Hagar, putting it on her shoulder, and the child... Ge 21:14 - the lie is so obvious - because Ishmael was 16 or 17 years of age, and Abraham put the child on her shoulders???? honestly???

I told you before , we Muslims believe the Torah is the word of God, however we are told by God Himself that it is corrupted and from above it is very much obvious that it is corrupted as well as other verses I mentioned to you before. The Jews changed the words from their places to change the meaning.

So even though the Torah is corrupted and that also refers to the Gospel too, I use it to show you the corruption, and which ever agrees with the Quran I take account of it.

Then what is the true basis for this hatred???

Who told us that Jesus did not sacrifce himself for humanity ??? - God told us in the Quran and confirmed by the Gospel in the words of the person who was on the cross (who is not Jesus) - therefore Jesus never lies because he never uttered such words you claim.God forbid should I call Jesus a liar, I should cut my tongue before I utter such words.

The call of the person on the cross is in Matthew 27:46 and Mark 15:34 - not in Psalm and it refers to the suffering of that person on the cross.

Muhammad is very very much mentioned in king solomon songs verse 5:16 that refers to the love God have for Muhammad. The Jews call his name in Hebrew in every prayer.

I look forward for the coming of Jesus, I hope during our time to prove to you that he is not God or son of God and to prove to you that he is one of the greatest prophets of God and a Muslim like all Prophets of God.

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