"there is nothing new under the sun."

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Oct 25, 2011 at 19:06

And you came close, but no cigar yet. (I'm sorry, if you do not smoke).

And you still miss the main point. As long as we exchange these pedestrian commentaries about whose human logic is going to prove which words of belief are more compelling, you'll still be promoting the Quran over the Holy Bible as you are supposed to do; and I'll relax and see the WORD of the LORD continue to prove itself to me as, for example, Turkey fulfills Hebrew Scripture as it attacks Israel yet again, just like the 'Palestinians' did after they were caught fulfilling their Biblical destiny in Gaza.

Why have I Not come up with anything new? It is because, as it is written in the Hebrew Holy Scriptures, "there is nothing new under the sun."

Now you try another attempt to make your observations in a logical manner, trying to incur some mathematic basis of proof for the 1976 discovery of some hereto before unknown element of the Quran. They have been doing that with the Hebrew Bible for as long if not longer and have not concluded anything truly spiritual about it yet. The use of number topology, or whatever the term, does not validate scripture; it only gives a means to quantify something in human terms that which cannot be understood without the Holy Spirit. Neither does it prepare an individual for entering eternity: and thank Almighty God for that……I was always suspicious of numbers being used to determine spiritual things-the occult and all that.

If the Quran is one in all the world, which English translation is the best; for I do not have a competent handle on Arabic, especially since evidently the script it uses does not trace as far back as Hebrew sources. And as for its 'no chance' of being corrupted or changed, you are seriously trying to tell us the same thing so many others do, that there is NO CHANCE that corruptible human interference can influence the understanding of the Quran. I'm sorry, but until someone can explain the differences between Shiite and Sunni texts and interpretations: you'll have to do better than that. I'll not try; I do not need to.

But, again, to see if this can be better set up for you- "there is nothing new under the sun." This means that when the Hebrew Holy Scripture says Yeshua HaMashiach-Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, forever, from eternity to eternity, NOTHING HE HAS SAID IS ANY DIFFERENT NOW THAN WHEN FIRST SPOKEN. It never changes; but ahhhhh, what humans do with it: THAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERNCE. And that is what you need to get past, and not follow the ages old lies of corruption by ancient people who have not or do not want to understand the Holy Bible the way the LORD Jesus Christ wants you to.

You say you have read the Holy Bible. So have I; and I'll be willing to venture that even as I have had thirty or more so years of reading it over and over and over, I have a better understanding of it than many. I struggled at first, asking the very questions you do; yet finding answers for all the inconsistencies by coming to a spiritual understanding. Even after thirty years, there is still an eternity waiting to get to the rest of the answers. So it requires patience, the kind of patience the LORD willingly gives me to understand Him at His WORD. Now that is a loving Almighty God I am willing to worship. It does not get any better than that, that is until He takes me home to be with Him face to face. There is no corruption in that; for it is not humanly determined, but determined in His Holy WORD, the Hebrew Holy Scriptures.

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