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Hazards of Empathizing with Mr. Waltz's Assertions of a 'Peaceful Nuclear Iran.'

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Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Jun 28, 2012 at 15:36

What we have here is someone who either did not live under or understand the nuclear umbrella (how many times did you 'duck and cover' when you were a child when Khrushchev was pounding his shoe on the desk and was pushing for a nuclear Cuba for the purposes of mutually assured destruction), or are somehow convinced that nuclear equality is the real intent of the Iranian Islamist Revolutionary regime instead of projecting their stated declaration of a nuclear powered caliphate.

In any event, you will have only yourself and any others in sympathy to blame when the real deal flashes before your eyes-do you really think Oman will escape even if it 'out of the way?' The United States will not be able to stop it.

You must understand that those who really do understand nuclear capability actually do think that the use of nuclear force is not an implementation of a doomsday scenario, but a force that is controllable under certain circumstances and can point to Hiroshima and Nagasaki for proof. While even today the consequences of detonating those devices still have implications of their use visible today, they are sparks in a barbeque in comparison to the power that can be unleashed today-but even if there were ten such detonations at once, mutually assured destruction is NOT inevitable.

All Iran might be envisioning is one in the center of Tel Aviv and there goes the Jewish neighborhood. THAT is what the Israeli's are trying to avert and they are not getting any reliable help to obtain any peace of mind, let alone any other sense of peace. And if the Israelis lose their sense of peace, what makes anyone think the rest of the globalist mindset is going to be allowed to get away with it?

Read the Waltz article again, this time looking for the tactical applications that must be rationalized and realize that Iran's quest for nuclear parity does not match the nuclear threat posed against them. The nuclear powers in the region are so armed for their reasons that do not implicate Iran as a potential target. The Russians are their friends and if the United States had any reason to confront a nuclear Iran, the rest of the world would already be engulfed in the flames of a global catastrophe and Iran might catch some of then.

On the other hand, a nuclear capable Iran is provocation that could lead to a global catastrophe; and that has been expressed by many of the Iranian Islamic revolutionary regime and their supporters. Then Mr. Waltz's assertions fly in the face of a reasonable rationale that asserts otherwise, that it is not reasonable to expect the Iranian leadership to show restraint if they did get the ability to 'wipe Israel off the map' if and when they seize their hoped for opportunity.

Thinking that the Israelis will not like this is like saying if Iran annexes Oman into the world caliphate under the threat of nuclear power, would you like that?

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3ad hominem [129 words]
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ChristopherMar 1, 2013 07:27203944
3Waltz was and remains ahead of his time [116 words]Waltz fanAug 7, 2012 09:48197724
1What Mr. Waltz Misses - Whose Finger Would He Put at the Button [542 words]M. ToveyAug 8, 2012 11:21197724
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2Stupidity, Iran, And Nukes [178 words]CliffordJul 16, 2012 02:59197257
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8Waltz is a blithering Idiot!! [92 words]BamagujeJun 30, 2012 17:19196854
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3Idiot [26 words]KerryJun 28, 2012 09:32196787
4I agree with Mr. Waltz [67 words]KarimJun 27, 2012 02:50196741
Hazards of Empathizing with Mr. Waltz's Assertions of a 'Peaceful Nuclear Iran.' [505 words]M. ToveyJun 28, 2012 15:36196741
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3Our dear Deb and the Stockholm syndrome [537 words]dhimmi no moreJul 20, 2012 06:42196741
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2Islamic hypocrisy [606 words]dhimmi no moreJul 25, 2012 06:42196741
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2Kenneth N. Waltz - The Stupidist Strategist? [66 words]JudithJun 26, 2012 20:57196733
Academia??? [34 words]Jon C.Jul 15, 2012 16:55196733
3so much for intellectual observations of Islamic concepts [77 words]rodney allsworthJun 25, 2012 20:20196684
1Saudis desire tanks [63 words]mythJun 25, 2012 12:36196670
1The Inevitability of an Iranian Nuclear Situation [338 words]M. ToveyJun 25, 2012 11:07196669
Foreign Affairs Magazine [13 words]samsonJun 25, 2012 02:14196657
4This is the troubling trend [141 words]saraJun 25, 2012 18:08196657
1Incredibly theoretical [74 words]StasJun 25, 2012 01:01196656
1It's actually a reasonable article, once you understand the underlying logic [179 words]
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JohnboyJun 24, 2012 21:15196652
1Ignoring Iran's Real Intentions are Proximal to the Apoplexy Shown in the Middle East [439 words]M. ToveyJun 26, 2012 14:55196652
No doubt it does [90 words]JohnboyJun 28, 2012 01:19196652
That's a whole lotta words when only a single sentence is needed [132 words]JohnboyJun 29, 2012 19:55196652
And Yet Words Sometimes Fail to Explain the Insanity of the World Peace Process [1304 words]M. ToveyJul 2, 2012 12:13196652
4Kenneth N. Waltz's motives [180 words]PrashantJun 24, 2012 14:05196641
3Stupidity at its absolute best! [46 words]Nelson D'SilvaJun 24, 2012 08:08196628
1Regarding Mr. Waltz [24 words]Prof. Paul EidelbergJun 24, 2012 07:33196626
1Stylish Chapeau [39 words]J. MeschJun 28, 2012 11:06196626
2this might surprise you, too [168 words]Nora A.Jun 24, 2012 01:26196620
1This is what happens when we ignore [85 words]steveNJun 23, 2012 21:46196618
2Ridiculously naive [58 words]stanley bJun 23, 2012 21:35196613
8Waltz-ing Matil-Dupe ( Mearsheimer & Walt's endorsement is like a "Seal of Approval" from Hitler and Muhammed) [476 words]RonJun 23, 2012 17:20196601
2K Waltz! [13 words]Steven LJun 23, 2012 16:59196599
4The reason for publishing is clear [46 words]JP GolbertJun 23, 2012 16:20196595
2Brilliantly Stupid [125 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Richard B.Jun 23, 2012 15:10196590
Waltz article [170 words]
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Gil BindelglasJun 23, 2012 14:51196587
3If you don't know what you are talking about, keep your mouth shut [96 words]alanJun 23, 2012 14:46196585
2Truth is a very difficult commodity to protect [260 words]PrashantJun 23, 2012 14:37196583
1Prashant, you are optimistic [61 words]steveNJun 23, 2012 21:39196583
In support of insanity [76 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
EthanPJun 23, 2012 14:01196578
kenneth Waltz in Foriegn Affairs [17 words]ronnie PleetJun 23, 2012 13:36196577
1Kenneth N. Waltz - The stupidest Strategist! [169 words]Nenette GrunbergJun 23, 2012 12:45196576
Why not? [58 words]stanley bJun 23, 2012 21:42196576
Bad Calls [60 words]jay1Jun 23, 2012 12:21196575
I can agree with the author on only one point [145 words]Abu NudnikJun 23, 2012 11:52196573
Islam is a political philosophy as well. [96 words]PrashantJun 24, 2012 14:15196573
2Threats to wipe Israel off the map. [162 words]David GoshenJun 23, 2012 11:22196572
Iran gets the bomb the world become a bum [as bad – poor] [214 words]NuritGJun 23, 2012 11:18196571
Earth to Waltz, please come in! [24 words]Arnold ServaisJun 23, 2012 10:44196570
1Foreign Affairs Magazine is the problem here [183 words]Richard H. ShulmanJun 23, 2012 10:12196568
2Waltz Doesn't Dance Alone! [30 words]Barry BlackJun 23, 2012 09:52196566
there a many dopes in the US [11 words]alanJun 23, 2012 20:24196566
Stupid [131 words]Dean WestridgeJun 23, 2012 08:13196565
1Stupid, perhaps , but [212 words]JudithJun 24, 2012 13:13196565
Kenneth Waltz [17 words]Lou VanDelmanJun 23, 2012 07:39196564
Kenneth N Waltz- The Stupidest Strategist? [80 words]AnneJun 23, 2012 07:37196563
2The article [46 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
NickJun 23, 2012 06:31196560
If Israel has nukes, they maintained peace in the middle east for as long as they may have had them [51 words]alanJun 23, 2012 20:22196560
1many factors are lacking-by choice? [107 words]Michael Hanni MorcosJun 23, 2012 05:08196558
1When Iran gets the bomb (nevermind Alabama, Tom Lehrer.) [64 words]JohnBJun 23, 2012 04:15196557
1Altering the balance of power in the Middle East [208 words]Ralph DavisJun 23, 2012 03:47196556
The key problem here [102 words]Dvar DeaJun 23, 2012 03:27196555
1Ill thought out and assinine comment [93 words]ChaimJun 23, 2012 02:24196553
1it is true then.Humanity is unable to learn anything from History [18 words]Constantinos KalotarisJun 23, 2012 01:26196549
1Mr. Waltz must be joking [135 words]JosephJun 23, 2012 01:17196548
1Iranian Nuclear Lobby Shows Its Face [223 words]CanaanJun 23, 2012 01:09196547
I expect more mainstream articles like this. [213 words]Pinchas BaramJun 23, 2012 00:47196545
2Kennedy was wrong to object Cuba's Nuclear aspirations. [72 words]IamJosephJun 23, 2012 00:18196543

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