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What Makes a Civilization Great? Islan During Europes Dark Age before RevisionismReader comment on item: Germany's Jewish Leadership vs. Israel Submitted by Robert (United States), Jan 10, 2022 at 22:58 Dear guru dhimmi, I can only tell you what does NOT make a civilization great. Since to are the Adult in the room, maybe to can teach us children that lesson? Tell me, dhimmi guru, was Germany a great civilization until Hitler came along? How about France, England. How about the Jews, did they produce a great civilization? The Greeks/ The Romans? Oh, how about Muhammad? Was he not the ultimate father of the Islamic Civilization during its Golden Age? Or do you believe that the Murderous Crusaders produced a great civilization within the Muslim lands, and in Jerusalem? Do you know how many Jews the Crusaders murdered and raped before they got to the Muslims and slaughtered them just because they considered Islam the religion of the Infidel? Unfortunately, guru dhimmi, I think you need to join the other boys and girls, and learn some history Civilization. I don't want you to be or remain a dhimmi. I want you to be a guru; you did not understand the context of my observation; by the time of the Renaissance, it was the West that that had the Great Civilization; you were still a dhimmi back then. And these Western Europeans far surpassed the Muslims who kept you in the state of "dhimmi-hood." The Ottoman Empire was only destroyed in 1918, and Secular Turkey emerged in 1923 under Ataturk. So, we (in the West) abolished Slavery as a result of our Civil War (1860-1865). So, guru dhimmi, don't blame the European West for the Slavery of the backward Muslims; at least you are lucky, you are not a slave, just a dhimmi. And if you don't want to remain a dhimmi, escape from your Muslim "uncivilized" surroundings, get on a boat, cross the Mediterranean sea, seek refugee status (if you can get it), and get some European education within the former Roman Empire, and then you will learn all about the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation, and how a small state, Prussia, under Bismark, emerged as (Civilized, Modern) Germany - until Hitler destroyed its reputation. PS I don't want you to remain a dhimmi. I want to to be more Civilized than that; an Equal Citizen. You know what a "citizen" is? It's a (Civilized) Roman concept, incidentally. It's not what you are, a mere "subject" of a King, Sultan, or a Caliph. Where are you now still a dhimmi? Somewhere in North Africa? Are you a Christian or Jewish dhimmi? Or are you, by any chance, in Pakistan? Best Wishes, Guru Robert Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". Reader comments (34) on this item
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