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ISLAMIZING AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY or the Grey Wolf without sheep's clothingReader comment on item: Is Turkey's Government Starting a Muslim Reformation? Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 22, 2008 at 10:31 Secular Turk wrote : < " independent, modern individuals intent on aligning Islam with the best of modern mores." Kemal Ataturk was such a true reformist and he already instituted true Reform Islam when he founded the Turkish Republic as the world's first secular-democratic state composed of a Muslim population. > The holy warrior and super-jihadist Gazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha was therefore an "independent, modern individuals intent on aligning Islam with the best of modern mores" according to you ? The Red Sultan who was Vladimir Ilych Lenin's best friend and admirer, the mass murderer who has hands stained in a sea of Christian blood, who purged Anatolia of all non-Moslems; the ruthless dictator who staged show trials to get rid of opposition he himself had created in an attempt at "democracy a la turque"; the crook and notorious drunkard who deceived each his innumerable allies - including the Kurds, the communists, the greedy but incurably stupid Americans ( the infamous Chester concession hoax) shall serve now as the bright example of a true reformist? ...For whom? For those to be deceived one more time ? If you are bent on a Kurdish or Greek genocide, you have truly the best teacher. You will know how to exterminate, then deny the charges of genocide and then rant about "Turkish humanism". Ataturk and his closest friends from the İttihad ve Terakki Committee have taught you a very good lesson at functional policy of genocide. Don't mislead us! The alliance between the Islamic forces and the militarists was the internal Turkish development in the 70-ies with the emergence of the militant Turkish left and the Kurdish independence movement. To suppress both the Kemalist pashas needed an ally. They chose the Islamists. They succeeded. The leftists were smashed, the Kurds as well. The little problem arose though to the effect that the former Islamist allies demanded awards for their services during the undeclared civil war in Turkey. The award was political power. It is the machinations of the "secularists" , their incompetence that gave a tremendous impetus to Islam in Turkey, not the US machninations as you are implying. < In the context of a secular country such as Turkey, instituting any "Moderate" Islam, as the AKP sees it, can only serve as a transitional step to full Islamization, pure and simple.> Turkey is a pure Moslem monoculture - 99,8% Moslem according to the CIA Factbook. For all intents and purposes it is Islamized and so sooner or later it must manifest its real identity , not some fiction of "secularism" Turks love so much talkiing about. In Chechnya the Russians have caught enough Turkish jihadists to be able to accuse Turkey of supporting and exporting Islamic terrorism. "Turkey's Islamist Erdogan government continues to exploit his country's unlikely EU membership in order to systematically erode the power of the country's pro-Western and secular forces, including the Military which for decades has stood as the sole guardian of Turkey's secular democracy against creeping Islamization." Really? Who Islamized Northern Cyrpus unless the "secular" Turkish army ? They desecrated and destroyed everywhere Christian churches and chapels or if undestroyed changed them into mosques stables, latrines. They levelled Christian cemeteries to the ground and erected everywhere new mosques. In every village in Northern Cyprus Turkish "secularism" manifests itself with the same infallible signs - mosques, crescents, five daily prayers ... "The sole guardian of Turkey's secular democracy against creeping Islamization" at work and at its best at that! No, exactly. While the Wahhabis may have their agenda, the Turks have been following theirs and it is guiding their behaviour. And the Turkish agenda is Turan , the Turanian empire with the Anatlian Turkish racists as the 'Herrenmenschen' of that empire. The Turks are clever enough to make use of Wahhabi billions (I think nowadays circa $ 15 bln Saudi dollars are circulating in Turkey financing the AKP success story) for their own agenda. One could put it in a different way. Knowing how anti-American, anti-Semitic and perfidious Turkish Moslems are, why hasn't the US State Department declared Turkey a rogue state yet? Since when the Turks have become so Christian-friendly? Haven't they slaughtered or expelled ALL Christians in Anatolia? Oh, I forgot. It is the extremist Christians that tried to exterminate the great Turks, but luckily enough the Turks in the best Moslem tradition succeeded in a counter-genocide. Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". << Previous Comment Next Comment >> Reader comments (428) on this item
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