A "humanist" and 1 000 000 victims massacred by him

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Mar 6, 2010 at 13:19

a guy from Turkey wrote :

> I'm a Turk and i know Turks have a bloody history.<

Don't say it so loudly! Someone may inform the Turkish Thought Police and 4 years in a Turkish jail , even for a Turkish like you, are a terrifying perspective, aren't they?

>But Ataturk was trying to change this.<

By exterminating 1 mln Greeks and expelling some 2 mln more ? ;) Great "change" , indeed!

>He knows one party system was wrong and tried to create more party.<

It was a parody from the very beginning. He appointed soem puppets to play the comedy of opposition. When the puppets took their roles too seriously and stopped mouthing the Kemalist script saying the truth about the Ghazi's incompetence and errors in public, they were hanged. Turkish comedies tend to end tragically. ;)

>One of them was created by one of his best friends "Kazım Karabekir". But party become a "Fans of Religionism Party".His best friend organized an assassination in izmir to kill Ataturk.Then party is closed.<

It's far from clear who organized the assassination. What is clear is that the Ghazi profited from it most by staging his infamous show trials in the wake of the assassination. When the culprits who had criticized him for his blatant mistakes were sentenced to death, the Ghazi appeared drunk (alcoholism was his ruling passion and eventually killed him) and in a state of euphoria at the party dancing throughout the night. There is an impressive description of what was going on then in J. Benoit-Méchin's biography of the Ghazi. He was a typical revengeful sadist unable to stand open discussion. And like every sadist he enjoyed his critics' agony and death. As a human he had a nasty character, as a statesman he was a nasty self-righteous liar and despot.

> And created one more, this become religionist/fascist and this is failed too.And didnt wanted to try again, cuz he saw whats happened.And he was a real "Socialist" who brought turkey democracy.He was a freedom fighter.<

Turkey has never had any democracy, least of all under the Ghazi's reign of terror. He ruled as dictator with an iron fist through the army and the police. He had people jailed and assassinated for reminding him his devious past - calling him "ghazi" became a major criminal charge as much as wearing a fez in the late 1920-ies - or making innocent jokes of him. So if you mean by "freedom fighter", "despotism figher" you're right. Otherwise you're just spreading standard Turkish lies. But what else can a Turk do, anyway?

> And one more thing, armenian genocide is a lie.<

Good Turk! You will not go to jail after all ! You deny the truth and so the dreadful Turkish Thought Police will not be interested in punishing you! But lie on ! The Bulgarian horrors are also a lie, aren't they? The Greek genocide is a lie too, isn't it? The Kemalist massacres of the Kurds never occured, did they?...Turks created all civilizations and Turkish is the oldest language of mankind , so how could they exterminate 1,5 mln people ?... Lie on , Turk!

> I cant say anything to others you wrote.They're mostly right.We did so many wrongs.And still doing wrongs.But all of Turks are not same.<

I wish I could see the difference. But as far as the standard Turkish lie are concerned they all the same - ...

>Some of us are really humanists. Ataturk was one of them.Please read a little more about Ataturk.<

More wishful thinking, what? The honorary citizen of the Turkish Republic and one of the best friends of Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha General Mikhail Vasilevich Frunze writes in his book " Recollections from Turkey" published c. 1923 i.al. :

' From 200 000 Greeks that had lived in Sampsunta , Synope and Amasia few men remain hiding in the mountains. Under the most brutal and inhumane conditions the elderly, the women and the children had been expelled to other regions. I was informed that the irregular Turkish bands of Topal Osman had spread panic in the town of Khavza. They burnt down, raped, killing any Greek or Armenian they came across and pulled down all the bridges. (...) Everywhere scenes of havoc and destructions.

The road from Kavak to Khatzilar will stay in my memory as long as I am alive. In the distance of 30 km I saw nothing but corpses of babies and children. In one place I counted 58 of them. I saw the dead body of a beautiful girl. The Turks had cut off her head and put it in her hands. Further on I saw another dead body of a beautiful little girl of 7-8 years. She had blonde hair and naked legs. She was wearing just a shirt. From what I saw I guessed that while the child was crying in agony hiding its head in the ground an Turkish infrantryman pierced its little body with a bayonet...'

This is what was happening daily in the territory under Kemal's control. Frunze talked to the Ghazi about what he had seen and protested. The Ghazi didn't deny the reality as you do , but simply lied to him all was "spontaneous" and he could do nothing to stop it. His people did that but he had no control over them and was against it .

Of course it was a typical insolent lie of Kemal. In fact few things happpen in depotic systems like Turkey "spontaneously", and least of all large scale massacres like the ones which shocked even the Soviet veteran whose heart was hardly sentimental. Atrocities and genocides are all organized and ordered from above in Turkey. What Frunze saw was part of the genocide thought out, ordered and staged by the Ghazi or one of your Turkish "humanists" of whose humanism history hasn't preserved any verifiable record while his exploits of savagery, hatred and tyranny have left numerous and eloquent documents to the posterity , just like the short account by Kemal's friend Frunze.

Your "humanist" was the worst butcher of Hellenism during all 5000 years of recorded Hellenic history. Within 3 years he had exterminated 1000 000 people the way Frunze described. I am well aware of the sad facts that in Turkey semantics is a highly politicised matter. It is only this crooked way that bloody scoundrels with the blood of a million people on their hand can be in earnest called "humanist". But I am not going to encourage you to read any critical book about your "humanist" who in cold blood had ordered beheadings and massacres of little Greek girls which his friend Frunze saw by mistake. All such books are unavailable in Ataturkistan and given the degree of intellectual enslavement und unfreedom of opinion in Turkey I suggest you stick to your standard lies and ahistorical bullshit. Don't change anything in your perverted mendacious world-view. I will sleep better knowing the Turks are what they have always been , i.d. what Frunze disclosed.

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