Turkish "excellency"

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 14, 2008 at 13:05

sims02 wrote : >And in case you missed, Kurds voted overwhelmingly against their separatist party in the last election.

< I see...Traditional "free" Turkish elections! By the way, who did the Kurds vote for in the 1980-ties when the Turkish "free" electiuons were being carried out with tanks, warplanes and helicopteres razing every single Kurdish village in Eastern Anatolia to the ground and killing and maiming any Kurd that dared speak against what he had been taught to grovel before "Ne mutlu türküm diyene"?

>You dodged my question though. What will happen to us when Russia "resumes its historic" role.<

As usually you put wrong questions. The right question is what will happen if Russia fails to re-assume her historical role against Turkey and pan-Turkism? The answer is simple and appalling. In that case there will be no Russia any more. Her history will come to an end. She will be replaced by a vast Pan-Turkish empire Enver was and every Turk is dreaming of - with Anatolian Turks as its new khans, beys, pashas, vezirs... http://img152.exs.cx/img152/579/turanmap1iz.gif

>Yet another appeal to emotions rather than facts. The classical Greek civilization was gone long, long time before us. We didn't sack Constantinople in 1204.<

You had sacked almost the whole of Anatolia by 1204. Remember Mazikert!

>Other ethnic groups didn't collaborate with Ottomans against Byzantium for no reason. Compared to late Byzantium, Ottomans were more advanced in most aspects until the 18th century.

< Yes, your slave markets were flourishing and the rayas were less than human dogs in the eyes of their Moslem masters. It is only with the Russian bayonets on the Turkish throats that formal equality was grudgingly introduced - on paper of course as it was almost never implemented in daily life. >>

Tell me you're not a Turk, you detest Islam and Kemalism and their heinous crimes and I'll like you. I know what Turkishness and Islam stand for<<

>You don't get it do you? If it weren't for Ataturk I wouldn't be here, as my family from Istanbul and Malatya would have been killed like the ones who didn't make it from the Balkans and Van. Killing went both ways. You are asking me to reject my existence, which is as absurd as it gets.< You Turks did slaughter millions and now when you are reminded of it you play the poor victims saved by miracle from the never-ending kafiri genocides against the Turks! Were it not so silly, I'd find it funny.

>According to you, I say that we made mistakes and killed innocent people yet I am a megalomaniac and self-glorifying. I say that I regret the losses of others but am oblivious. You talk about killing 10 innocent civilians for vengeance yet I am a barbarian. The problem is here is not me. It is your refusal to see us as individuals or human beings for that matter.

< You don't regret anything. Or if you do, perhaps only the fact that the Kurdish problem had not been solved according to the Armenian-Greek model of mass murders and expulsions. As to killing innocents it was not the Hellenic army that excelled in mass murders , but the Kemalist hordes. They did it and the mistake of the Greeks was that they took no hostages and treated the Turks under their control not as the Greeks were being treated by the Kemalists.

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