The Final Acceptance of the Jewish State is Biblically Mandated in the Love of Jesus Christ

Submitted by M. Tovey (United States), Jun 10, 2010 at 19:37

We see the basis for your thinking is that there is a discrepancy in Paul's conversion, that there is some reference you are using that does not correctly represent the facts at hand. It is not Paul that describes his conversion on the Damascus Road, but the physician Luke, who wrote the most contemporary Gospel, using much first hand witness accounts from the ones' who knew Jesus Christ personally. From a humanistic logical standpoint, you cannot make that stuff up, for as we see in your reluctance to accept it, no one can accept it in human terms. Paul does confirm the meeting later, which cost him his life just a few years before the destruction of the Temple by the Romans.

There are evidences that can be spiritually discerned in determining someone's meeting with Jesus Christ then, or in this age, the Holy Spirit, which is unmistakable for those who discern such things. It is potentially possible that Paul may have had some conversations with Luke, but not likely, since Paul was persona non-grata in fully Jewish circles and Luke's status was of a different nature. From then until now, is anyone of this age going to meet Jesus Christ in the flesh? Not going to happen… read the scriptures and realize that the next appearance of Jesus Christ is going to happen on a different order.

You keep trying to say that Paul somehow altered the Gospels, yet there is no evidence that he did so, especially since much of what was written was completed AFTER he was dead (approx 67CE). If we are to understand that the scriptures are inspired by the Holy Spirit, how ludicrous would it seem that if I have my faith in an Almighty God that controls everything, how is mere human going to mess them up? The Eternal Sovereign I believe in is much greater and infinitely more powerful than any who would try to alter and contradict His WORD, least of all Paul, his bond servant. The council of Nicaea would not have been able to alter the WORD of the LORD and get away with it. Only in misunderstandings and falsely interpreting the scriptures by unschooled people would there be the problems found in the time of the Islamic Prophet.

Now to you, I would ask for the proof of the Islamic Prophet's alleged meeting with Jesus Christ, for if it were true, then you have contradicted the Words Jesus Christ spoke. Herein we see there the claim that the Quran mimics the Holy Bible, and yet this is a direct contradiction, and a part not supposedly altered by Paul.

Now you introduce an allegation of bigotry by inserting a comment of the Islamic Prophet's ethnicity, that somehow that would alter the perception of his contravening the WORD of the LORD. What I know of him is given in biographies written by scholars of the Quran, and if there are any inferences of his ethnicity in the process of his dictating the Quran, they are the ones who have made that introduction. Further, these scholars of the Quran have maintained that only understanding the Quran in its original Arabic (although I have read some have inferred it is written in Aramaic) is the way to get to its original meaning. I have deferred, and will continue to defer to their interpretations as to its intent.

Now you claim that I have hidden some reference to an alleged prophecy concerning the Islamic Prophet, and doing so in 'my version.' I have no personal version of the Holy Bible, and I have made the 'Hebrew' reference to my quotes for a specific reason, for in its inception, it IS Hebrew, no matter the translation. I have read the scriptures in the King's English, contemporary English, Spanish, farsi, Latin Vulgate, Greek and a little in actual Hebrew. I have made very minor studies in Aramaic, Syriac, and have an Arabic version that I have started for word comparisons. To what end, one might ask? A good question to ask, which is answered by my not wanting to be susceptible to some others' personal interpretations. And yet, I am not, nor do I insist that I have any special means available to me to understand what the LORD is showing me in my studies, only in His influence as I study.

Now you further insist on some kind of bigotry in my association with individuals of other ethnicity, which would be incorrect and inappropriate, for I have many acquaintances of Middle Eastern or South Asian descent; I even count you, whom I have never met. A very good friend of mine is Egyptian. I have known and have respect for men who have been to Hajj, and of one whom I was keenly interested in his pilgrimage to becoming a Hajji. Does that mean that I would subscribe to his views on the differences between his belief and my faith; certainly not. But I am not reluctant in my faith, that I have my belief that Jesus Christ is the only One who has promised to set me free from my sin, and His empty grave and the power of His Holy Spirit are my validation.

Now, I am going to assume that your preconception of my viewpoint as being racial and is from your own preconceptions of westernized society, and of the fracas caused by the international community in the perceived disrespect for the Islamic Prophet. Of a truth, what I have learned about the Islamic way comes from associating with Muslims, going back more than thirty-five years. What I have learned about the Suras and hadiths comes from Islamic students of the Quran, both those of the moderate and the more fundamental schools of Islamic thought. And I have my understanding that although I have no Biblical proof of Islam in the Holy Bible, I do understand that Islam fits the descriptions given by the Prophet Daniel and the Apostle John as to what the Christian needs to know prior to the end of the age. I need not hear anything a Christian might say about Islam, for there is enough to go from Muslim circles around me and listening to the Imams around the world to provide what is necessary for discernment.

So, I return to the basic premise of Christianity of the Gospel of John, Ch3: 10) Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11) Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.12) If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things? 13) And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. 14) And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15) That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

These are all Jesus Christ's words, so how can I refuse Him? I can't. And it is that love He has for me that I share with you.

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