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Concerning Round Four

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Submitted by Jay1 (United States), May 24, 2011 at 22:10

Dr Pipes' predictions seem always right, so if Dr Pipes thinks Barak Obama will reapproach the Prime Minister of Israel, no argument here. That being said, I suggest the following concern. Somewhere between Barak Obama and the State Department of the United States, something has gone very foul. When President Bill Clinton, the current Secretary of State's husband put forward his map and ideas,- proded and succeeded getting Israel to sign on, he showed what Israel thought was its closing hand. By allowing the Arafat Palestinians to walk away again, Israel's closing hand has been dropped to putting their foot in their mouth. Having been diplomatically undressed, Israel is now being told by a new warmless American President , that Abba Eban's 1967 Auschwitz lines are where talks will begin.

Respectfully, Israel's best friend owes Israel a more earned decency to begin and base any new negotiation "from" the Clinton map lines, not the 1967 lines.The no to anything Palestinians can take heart that the Clinton lines "are based " on the 1967 lines. But the beginning emphasis now, that base, should be with those who already acted boldly. Too boldly.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Obama and Israel [158 words]saraFeb 21, 2012 18:34193543
Dr. Pipes: Is It Round Four Yet? [217 words]M. ToveyFeb 21, 2012 18:17193540
Israels elected Op Ed Writer (responding to Peres and the 67 lines) [124 words]Jay1Jun 12, 2011 02:05186224
Risk Of Conflict Rise [18 words]Clifford IshiiJun 2, 2011 22:59185934
Arabs should not fear retaliation by Christians [137 words]DeborahJun 5, 2011 13:01185934
My second comment [343 words]MichaelMay 31, 2011 12:46185741
1Comments About America's Lack of Responsible Corporate Leadership Not Irrelevant [618 words]M. ToveyJun 2, 2011 16:41185741
America and Democracy are about freedom of choice. [252 words]DeborahJun 5, 2011 13:12185741
If so many other countries are "following the Lord" why does America always end up #1 [159 words]DeborahJun 5, 2011 13:22185741
Some notes [753 words]MichaelJun 7, 2011 05:27185741
1 2 3 [289 words]MichaelJun 8, 2011 02:23185741
2America in Post Christian Mode [538 words]M. ToveyJun 8, 2011 18:47185741
1Some Further Notes [534 words]M. ToveyJun 8, 2011 19:28185741
Negotiating in the souk [213 words]DavePMay 30, 2011 20:10185727
Israel and Land. [186 words]DeborahJun 5, 2011 13:30185727
4If Israel goes back to the 1967 lines, Palestinians cease to exist. [144 words]Dr. Ron PollandMay 30, 2011 00:18185708
It's ... obvious isn't it? [49 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiMay 31, 2011 02:34185708
Great History Lesson [93 words]DeborahJun 5, 2011 13:35185708
5"routed and humiliated" [48 words]Peter HerzMay 28, 2011 09:30185668
1Israel & Obama [23 words]Clifford IshiiMay 27, 2011 18:14185650
In defense of President Obama [220 words]DeborahMay 27, 2011 13:53185644
How can you be sure that both parties are at fault in case of every dispute? [16 words]Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat PanthiMay 28, 2011 15:12185644
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3History was made for the State of Israel on May 24, 2011 [308 words]NuritGMay 26, 2011 02:16185593
1Baruch haShem for Netanyahu [25 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiMay 27, 2011 22:28185593
Obama showed The World Collective Antipathy Toward Israel [214 words]NuritGMay 28, 2011 18:13185593
WHO THINKS HE IS KICKING THE OTHER ? [129 words]Nenette GrunbergMay 26, 2011 01:17185592
A different angle. [73 words]Clarence De BarrowsMay 25, 2011 17:59185583
1U.S. Presidential policy [32 words]Dennis GarwitzMay 25, 2011 17:38185581
Israel does not need US funds at all [205 words]yuval Brandstetter MDMay 27, 2011 15:27185581
1To Dennis Garwitz [38 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiMay 30, 2011 00:06185581
3Time to wake up,...and smell the chutzpah [97 words]Dr. Ron PollandMay 25, 2011 16:39185578
1A link you'd be interested in [12 words]Kepha HorMay 28, 2011 09:33185578
Obama's Speech about Israeli Concessions [164 words]Leonard MarkowitzMay 25, 2011 15:10185576
Obama vs Netanyahu, Round Three [64 words]Balarabe AbbaMay 25, 2011 13:41185573
3Underlying Problem [100 words]Zvi November (Jerusalem)May 25, 2011 13:00185570
1agreed [90 words]saraMay 25, 2011 18:44185570
to Zvi November [78 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiMay 30, 2011 00:20185570
One day the world will have to wake up [48 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiJul 14, 2011 22:35185570
My reasons for supporting Israel. Mr Pipes? [341 words]MichaelMay 25, 2011 11:53185566
Good Reasons For Supporting Israel [722 words]M. ToveyMay 31, 2011 19:25185566
1What's the difference between the June 4th, 1967 ceasefire line and the 1949 armistice line? [5 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Abu NudnikMay 25, 2011 11:02185565
1Difference in lines [21 words]saraMay 25, 2011 18:37185565
In Biblical Terms - Parts of a Process Fulfilling Israel's Destiny [253 words]M. ToveyMay 26, 2011 12:05185565
1Thanks Dr. Pipes, I thought so [39 words]Abu NudnikMay 31, 2011 13:22185565
Thanks Sara, but the map does not show the difference beteen 1967 and 1949 but between 1947 and 1949 [62 words]Abu NudnikMay 31, 2011 13:26185565
3Division of Jerusalem [75 words]RaoMay 25, 2011 10:45185564
1Obama has gone to diplomatic and political war with Israel [217 words]Ken BesigMay 25, 2011 10:35185562
That Being the Case - What to Prepare for in September [316 words]M. ToveyMay 26, 2011 17:18185562
The mask comes off [15 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiJul 14, 2011 22:59185562
2The Talented Mr. Obama [416 words]Arlinda DeAngelisMay 25, 2011 10:18185561
Netanyahu's speeches [123 words]DeniseMay 25, 2011 09:49185560
Don't Count Obama Out [299 words]John W McGinleyMay 25, 2011 09:03185559
Obama Verses Netanyahu-Round Three... Set Aside the Political Rhetoric and Look at the Intentions. [212 words]AnneMay 25, 2011 08:55185557
Obama Abandon for Abandoning Israel. [102 words]Susan BrowneMay 25, 2011 06:17185551
1Suicide [25 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Dale EhrgottMay 25, 2011 04:15185550
1Netanyahu speech [72 words]Hessel MeilechMay 25, 2011 04:07185549
Mr Pipes' point is well said [266 words]Jon, a Brit from EurolandMay 25, 2011 03:41185547
Concerning Round Four [191 words]Jay1May 24, 2011 22:10185541
4Mishandled Diplomacy - Lessons from the Past Never Learned [326 words]M. ToveyMay 24, 2011 15:38185535
1No answer [138 words]HenryMay 24, 2011 12:49185532
There is an Answer - One That Few will Endure [525 words]M. ToveyMay 25, 2011 12:40185532
BiBi Netanyahu's Full Address At AIPAC 2011 from Edward Schwartz on Vimeo. [11 words]Andre DelageMay 24, 2011 09:48185522
not quite convinced [84 words]concernedMay 24, 2011 06:47185520

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