Death wish and no enlightened self-interest .

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 23, 2012 at 17:10

Hi, sara !

I am sorry you lost your reply. I know how bad it is from my own experience.

Ypu wrote :

> Your question:"Do you think that the US supports Israel as a matter of principle and not of opportunism " ? Does it matter? Just as I do not question the motives of the millions of Evangelicals who lobby, support and promote tourism in Israel because they are hoping to achieve the Rapture, so do I accept the support of the US for Israel without questioning motives, only results... As long as it is mutually beneficial for both parties, it matters not what the nature of the motives are.<

And who would you like to be supported by yourself - a man of principles or a corrupt opportunist? It must feel very uncomfortable for every Israeli to see the same country that allegedly helps Israel simultaneously eagerly supporting all enemies of Israel,needn't it? Imagine also that one day it may stop being so beneficial for the opportunist to support you.What then? In Israel people still remember how little the US did between 1939-1945 to save the Jews.

> As to US hegemony, I think that many would agree that it is preferable to have the US as a world power instead of some of the other options (and this may be in flux given the debt to China).<

The problem is not so much US hegemony but rather what US shall exert hegemony - an America which is pro-jihadist, lying, predatory, parasitic and destructive for the American middle class or another America - fighting against Islam, free from the tyranny of predatory corporations and lobbyists,truthful, productive, caring for its own middle class. Which America would you like yourself and your children and grandchildren to be living in ?

> I do not disagree with you in terms of their policies with Muslims, but we must face the fact that many US administrations have had to deal with the Arabs for oil out of necessity and this has shaped policy. When a day comes that the oil is less of a factor, we may see a change. What is wrong with enlightened self interest?<

First, what "oil" was involved in the destruction and occupation of Northern Cyprus by America's Turkish darlings in 1974? What "oil" was flowing under Kosovo's soil to explain its jihadist reconquest in the shadow of US and NATO bombs and rockets ? You can't explain away all pro-Islamic crimes committed by America with the rationale of oil. At least In the most horrifying cases as the above this rationale doesn't work at all.

Second, I can see no "enlightened" self-interest in transferring trillions of dollars to Moslem countries at all but its very opposite - a death wish.You as a kafir can't lick Saudi and Turkish buttocks and expect Moslems you give your resources, money and technologies won't devour you one day using your own technologies. You can't call a mixture of greed, stupidity and treason "enlightened self-interest" , can you? Or has America's moral standards by now sunk so low that you may do it ?

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