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What to do? Fight Islamophobia as your idols do!Reader comment on item: Uncovering Early Islam Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 23, 2012 at 19:31 the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan wrote : > But whether it' right or wrong - Mann's insight makes perfect sense (as does yours) . If you want outcome A - use methods B and C. < The problem is not so much with "methods B and C" but with "outcome A". What outcome is it our American friends really want and whose interests shall it serve?Theirs or ours? What world do they want to create with chaos , anarchy, instability brought about by viruses of "democracy", "human rights" and global poverty which chaos, anarchy , instability and neoliberal economics inevitably entail? Have you ever thought about such questions before praising the American wisdom of choosing the right method to achieve this nasty outcome ? > Modern cars follow the laws of aerodynamics not just to make them look sleeker and all alike - but to enable higher speeds, greater stability and lower fuel consumption. There is (at the moment) no third way to achieve those outcomes. It is just following logical principles based on information refined from past data and experience. So if chaos theory can be extrapolated to some degree to realworld situations - it would be irrational not to utilise it.< If there is something correct in your analogy, you haven't noticed it. Chaos theory as applied by Mann (I have just heard he had his part in color revolutions in Eastern Europe and Kirgistan) and his cronies is not that it makes better cars but that it in fact makes driving for most drivers impossible or very difficult and dangerous by destroying roads,blowing up gasoline stations, disrupting oil supplies, stoppig ambulances, organizing road works in the most unlikely places, damaging tyres and engines of fellow drivers and particularly of potential competitors. We saw this "car racing" according to the rules of chaos theory clearly in Libya last year where the CIA and MI5 and SAS fomented rebellion to damage the too speedy Chinese automobile. >Do we want superpowers acting irrationally?< There is rationality of a thug and rationality of a non-thug.Which rationality would you like to be confronted with ? > But is it only the USA with such grand designs? Who wrote 'the Art of War'? Don't other countries vying for 'superpowerdom' also have professional strategists? (OK, it seems the EU doesn't so leave them out)< And whose country's military budget accounts for 45.7 % of total military spending by the world's 171 governments and territories?What professional startegists can do with such a monstrous war machine according to you? "...more chaos, more Islam, more desecrated churches and displaced and oppressed non-Moslem populations, more destabilization, more disasters, more insecurity and , more death and destruction in the world with the loud slogans of "democracy", "freedom", and "human rights" which Mann defines with disarming sincerity as nothing else but a "virus to intfect target populations", a weapon of chaos..." > Well - treating all phenomena and values dispassionately and simply as inputs in an equation - he could make those definitions< Your comment reminds me of Rudolf Hoess - the commandant of Auschwitz who declared something to the same effect during his trial. > But as we all agree that success in the further spread of the muslim meme is a regressive and bad thing for civilisation - now the hard questions: does the apparent US strategy achieve the best of possible outcomes? < If the outcome is the diabolical one described above, then definitely there is no better method to the best of my knowledge.There are 7 bln people in this world. Haven't you heard complaints about that from certain powerful circles? The world population must be reduced by a few billion or else ... How? Applies chaos theory is the answer. They made the devil of Hitler because he had got 60 000 000 lives on his conscience.These gentlemen intend to exterminate a few billion "useless" souls which will make Hitler, Stalin and Mao put together look like green horn amateurs by comparison. >If not - can we do anything about it? What are we going to do about it?< Well, you can fight Islamophobia e.g. as people whose credibility and reliability you have tried to restore in my eyes.Just look around to see how many "Islamophobes" are out there according to them. They unmask and fire them even in such high and politically correct places as Joint Forces Staff College in Norfolk, Virginia ! One of these "despicable" Islamophobes persecuted recently turns out to be great American patriot and thinker Army Lt. Col. Matthew A. Dooley. He was commissioned as a second lieutenant upon graduation from the U.S. Military Academy at West Point in May 1994. He served in Germany, Bosnia, Kuwait and Iraq. He has numerous awards including a Bronze Star Medal, the fourth-highest military award for bravery, heroism or meritorious service and he showed the ability to think independently and in depth about things which we are not allowed to form an independent and deep opinion at all - Islam! To quote a few reports with a bias against him : "Army Lt. Col. Doodley had taught since 2004 the course "Perspectives on Islam and Islamic Radicalism" to lieutenant colonels, colonels, lieutenant commanders and captains. He developed what he called "Counter-Jihad Op Model" for the U.S. He clearly recognized the enemy and found a method to deal with him. He spoke of the need to reach a position where "Saudi Arabia [is] threatened with starvation, Mecca and Medina destroyed [and] Islam is reduced to cult status." Dooley discussed "the historical precedents of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki" to achieve the "destruction" of Islam's holiest cities as the only way to bring down Islam. Lt. Col. Dooley spent much time disputing against the presence of a moderate, tolerant mainstream Islam. "We have now come to understand that there is no such thing as 'moderate Islam," he noted in July 2011. "It is therefore time for the U.S. to make our true intentions clear. This barbaric ideology will no longer be tolerated. Islam must change or we will facilitate its self-destruction," he argued. He also insisted on the obvious -but "politically incorrect" - point that the U.S. had been founded on a "Judeo-Christian" ethic of reason, and said to the audience in his class that as professional soldiers their oath forced them to pick a side." Clear, bright and courageous ideas of a man who proved his patriotism in action and knew what he was talking about spurred fat spineless generals with long standing Moslem connections and Moslem Fifth Column in America to act against him and his ideas. He was reported to his superiors. The Department of Defence suspended the course and Lt. Col. Dooley while Martin Dempsey, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "ordered the directors of joint military education institutions to examine the scope and content of training and education courses dealing with Islamic extremism "to ensure they are appropriate and in keeping with U.S. values and principles" What these "US values and principles" really are for those in office and power we know from whistleblowers like Sibel Edmonds or the National Corruption Index. " Gen. Dempsey ordered also all service branches to review their training to ensure that other courses don't use anti-Islamic material and that procedures are in place to screen course content." Nice circumlocutions for strict censorship and suppression of free speech in the army ! "The inquiry found that the institutional failings were limited to the Joint Forces Staff College, not the rest of the military's education complex, and any future elective courses on Islam at the college will be "redesigned to include aspects of US policy namely, that the US isn't at war with Islam." Reacting to the now publicly-available text of the lectures, General Dempsey was quoted as saying, "It was just totally objectionable, against our values, and it wasn't academically sound. ... We're pushing back on liberal thought. This was just objectionable, academically irresponsible." Well, it's interesting what credentials and detailed arguments Dempsey has got to make such wild claims ? One has the impression that beside being an expert on the barren art of political correctness in its various metastases he also gets some extra charities from a rich Moslem country or maybe he is so afraid of losing his sinecure that he will rather denounce and destroy any patriot to keep it! In short, if you want to do something to convince me that you acknowledge Aristotle's principle of non-contradiction, then I am afraid that you have no other option but either to reject the case of Lt. Col.M. Dooley and forget it or reject the belief in your US idols who in my eyes are no more than mean and disgusting mediocrities,spineless bastards and common traitors working for the cause of Islam . i.e. for our destruction !
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