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Revisiting al-Tabari and Quranic dsasters
Reader comment on item: Ankara at War
in response to reader comment: A serious allergy of "Truth"
Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 7, 2012 at 07:08
What a disaster al-Tabari tells us that the word bism is not really a word but an acronym (because he knows it is a mistake) and the source of the tradition? No othet than Muhammad who was quoting Jesus of all people! So we have one ot two possibilites here
1. al-Tabari was maknig things up so was he a liar our dear Amin who ran away not once but twice?
2. Or Abul Qasim was a liar so was Abul Qasim a liar?
So who is the liar here?
For example this extract of al-Tabari regarding the Bismillah
What a disaster
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