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Submitted by Alexandros (United Kingdom), Jun 27, 2013 at 04:42

First of all you should read carefully what i am writing. You might not want to understand what i am writing, but your reply is not referring to my comments.

You never wanted to recognise the deep state founded by the Kemalists, even though it was there, even though it was responsible for dozens of murders, for thousands of crimes and even though those people openly admitted what they were doing, Tsiler and Gilmaz and Demirel have admitted such actions. Nevertheless now you do not want to admit that this state is being substituted by another deep state controled by the Islamists. If you do not want to see something so obvious, this is your choice. Just have a look to the new laws that Erdogan is trying to pass so to help MIT acquire uneven power!

I also never wrote that SA and Qatar are going to control the Islamic Turkish government, i wrote that they will support the Turkish effort to become a clearly Islamic republic and they would collaborate with an Islamic Turkey. Muslim Brotherhood is a Panislamic organisation and not an one nation thing and in fact this is what Erdogan talks about, he talks about the Islamic identity and not the national identity, because he is making an effort to take the Kurds to his side.

You keep writing that Ozal was of Kurdish origin, but this is not true, being of Kurdish origin does not mean being born in Kurdistan, but it means have Kurds parents, he was absolutely a Turk. Erdogan is the same!

What you write about equal rights is perhaps your wishful thinking and i truly hope that at some point this will become true, but it is not true at the moment and the prediction is that it won't be like that in the years to come! The Turkish state has a PhD in ethnic cleansing and genocides, first they got rid of the Christians, after them the Kurds became the enemy or the part of the Kurds who spoke about their national identity and their liberation. In addition to all this you should think of all the murders of Journalists and writers, the attacks to the Patriarchate, the fires in Greek forests, the murders of foreign citizens, just because they were publishing different opinions or books, specifically the Bible, because they represent the different and of course the justification of all these actions by the official state! Now the Islamists took over and you saw what happened, five dead people and thousands injured and the justification of these actions by the official state. Nothing actually changed but the people who control the para-state. So, NO, Western rules do not apply in Turkey, it is a blasphemy for Turkish officials to use the word Democracy!

You also write that the Kurds live in the West, but what you should answer is why they were moved there, by whom, was it their choice and did this happen peacefully?

Democracy and freedom is earned only by blood and the Turks have never chosen to fight for Democracy and nobody in Islam has ever fought for Democracy until today, "Arab spring" included, perhaps because all the people are influenced by the teachings of submission, that Islam teaches.

Finally, I hope that we will never have a Turk Prime Minister or a Minister, i am grateful for my freedom! And i never wished that a Greek will become a minister or a Prime Minister in Turkey, everyone should rule themselves and their country with their own people.

If you have left Turkey to live abroad you have no excuse, you should know the things i wrote above, if of course you have lived all your life in Turkey, it depends on your beliefs and what you have dealt with in your life, propaganda is an art of the Turkish state! Those guys are amazing in all criminal actions, Hitler had them as an example, so he must have known something about it!

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