And you ponder this: The Islamic historical tradition is the biggest literary fraud in the history of mankind

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 19, 2014 at 17:39

Our dear GoD who is fond of quoting "corrupted" books to prove a point does that make sense our dear GoD?

84:6 as they pass through the Valley of Baca [Makkah], they make it a place of springs[spring of

So as I proved to you so far that the word in the verse is Baka or weep which is the same word as in Arabic and Syriac and Hebrew and how come you did not know that?

But the ultimate fraud here is that the Arabic word Baka is

Ba Kaf alif Maksura

Your Allah's Bakka is

Ba Kaf then ANOTHER Kaf followed by a Ta Marbouta

Big difference

This is like your bogus claim that the word Adna in Q30:1 means lowest

Why the lies and ignorance?

But I challenge the person that is feeding you this nonsese to post here and defend his bogus claims and his lies Deal?

Zamzam] the autumn rain covers it with pools.

Your Islamic sources tell us that there was only one Beer Zamzam your claim is bogus

As for Bakka or it is Mecca the fables about this city are no more than the product of the fraudulent Islamic historical tradition written not by Arabs but by Persians in the third century after the death of your so called prophet and I challenge you to find any Extant literary evidenence including

1. Coins

2. Papyri

3. Ostraca

4. Epigraphy

5. Monuments

That can be dated prior to 633 CE and was found in the Hijaz when your masters the Arabs invaded the Middle East and beyond

You will find nothing not a thing

Oh you do not believe me? Here is Robert Hoyland's book where he collected all the EXTANT literary sources that pre-date Islam and were found in the Hijaz and let me help you: IT IS BIG TIME ZERO

And the book is: Arabia and the Arabs from the Bronze Age to the coming of Islam

http://www.amazon.com/Arabia-Arabs-Bronze-Peoples-Ancient/dp/0415195357/ref=la_B001IXPT40_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395263850&sr=1-2

You will find ZERO nothing not a thing which means that your Ulama were a bunch of liars

As for Mecca Patricia Crone demolished the bogus claim by the Islamic historical tradition about Mecca being a center of trade and wealth and that what Mecca was a miserable place in the middle of the hot and barren Hijazi desert and there were no caravans or trade or anything and what the people of Mecca do was local trading and not long distance trading and it was a poor and miserable place and here read this

http://www.amazon.com/Meccan-Trade-Islam-Patricia-Crone/dp/1593331029/ref=la_B001HMUUDM_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395264145&sr=1-2

Crone was able to demolish the lies of the islamic historical tradition about Bakka aka Mecca

The only surprising thing is tablighees like you did not catch on Ptolemy's mentioning of a certain Macoraba and that this must be Meacca! Let me help you it ain't

And do you know why? Becuase tablighees like you and not serious students of history and are only fond of making fools of themselves

Or Pliny's Dabanegoris Regio ir really Dhu Bani Quraish! Let me help you it ain't

As for your so called prophet if he existed then he must have lived far north and never set foot on this bogus Mecca aka Bakka

Now does your Allah come down every Friday and rides a donkey as we are told by your glorious Ulama? and if then we can do lunch with him and see what does the word Baka mean? Oh I forgot that your Allah is an Arab who does not know any Hebrew or Syriac

Why the ignorance you tell me

---

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".