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Contradictions within European Societies

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Submitted by Frederik (Germany), Sep 2, 2016 at 08:13

Robert Spencer does great work. However, I think he sometimes paints the picture with a rather broad brush. Western and Northern European clergy surely are largely pro-immigration, as they hold on to the narrative of the abrahamic brother-religion and the possibility of peaceful coexistence. Many also hope for a revival of christian belief in Europe. This is not the case for catholic or orthodox clergy in Eastern Europa. And the most atheistic region in Europe (East Germany) with less than 20% of the population being church members is by far the most anti-immigration region in Germany. PEGIDA (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West) has its core in Dresden. So there are many contradictions and ambivalences within societies. The same goes for the Czech Republic, which is one of the least religious countries in the world (10-15% are religious).

This leads to an interesting conclusion in my view: The people most ciritical of muslim immigration in Europe are more likely to be atheist Europeans, not as one may suspect, the christian Europeans.

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